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Re: ad nauseam
By:Bill Hamm
Date: 12/17/2007, 2:07 am
In Response To: Re: ad nauseam (Gordon Masor)

: Hi Dave,

: I seem to have struck a nerve. I ended my message with "This is not to
: say that you can not learn from them, but speed is the end all for
: them." I have not raced kayaks, but I raced mountain bikes, road
: bikes and on the track. I was never more than a mid pack finisher.

: That said, pros put out more than 350 watts continuously and are looking to
: save .10's of seconds. This is very different from what a average person
: can do. Equipment can only make you marginally faster. Training, genetics
: and coaching are what make you faster. If you want to go faster, your
: money is better spent on a coach than on the latest equipment. A few years
: ago, a woman's road world championship race was won on a steel frame.

: As far as racing improving equipment, most racing frames are now disposable.

: I have nothing against racing or racers. I liked racing. But racing is hard
: and all consuming. I think it fine to borrow technique or equipment from
: racers. Just don't expect to push the same gears as a pro. If speed was
: all that was important we would all be on surf skis with wing paddles, and
: who knows maybe someday we will.

: Gordon

: Ps. I tried to post this before, so I am sorry if this is a repeat.

I'm still waiting for one of our talanted designers to design a strip built surfski :)

Bill H.

Messages In This Thread

Paddle: Feathered vs Unfeathered
Greg Clopton -- 12/9/2007, 9:41 pm
build & try both
ChuckS -- 12/10/2007, 11:25 pm
Re: Paddle: Feathered vs Unfeathered
Dave Houser -- 12/10/2007, 8:17 pm
Re: Paddle: Feathered vs Unfeathered
Bryan Hansel -- 12/10/2007, 11:20 am
Re: Paddle: Feathered vs Unfeathered
Bill Hamm -- 12/11/2007, 2:28 am
Re: Paddle: Feathered vs Unfeathered
Gordon Masor -- 12/11/2007, 12:13 am
Hijack!
Dave Gentry -- 12/11/2007, 11:29 am
Re: Hijack!
Alex Ferguson -- 12/11/2007, 4:54 pm
ad nauseam
Dave Gentry -- 12/11/2007, 7:00 pm
Re: ad nauseam
Gordon Masor -- 12/12/2007, 2:53 am
Re: ad nauseam
Bill Hamm -- 12/17/2007, 2:07 am
Historical POV
Reg Lake -- 12/11/2007, 6:20 pm
Re: Hijack!
Mike Savage -- 12/11/2007, 1:48 pm
Re: Hijack!
Dave Gentry -- 12/11/2007, 3:14 pm
Re: Paddle: Feathered vs Unfeathered
Kris Buttermore -- 12/10/2007, 1:21 pm
Re: Paddle: Feathered vs Unfeathered
Mike Scarborough -- 12/10/2007, 10:25 am
Re: Paddle: Feathered vs Unfeathered
JohnK -- 12/10/2007, 4:59 pm
Kinesiology
Pedro Almeida -- 12/10/2007, 9:29 am
Re: Kinesiology
eric -- 12/10/2007, 9:45 pm
Re: Kinesiology
TOM RAYMOND -- 12/10/2007, 10:17 am
Re: Kinesiology
Mike Savage -- 12/10/2007, 10:41 am
Re: Kinesiology
TOM RAYMOND -- 12/10/2007, 11:48 am
Re: Kinesiology
Mike Savage -- 12/10/2007, 3:17 pm
another example
Pedro Almeida -- 12/10/2007, 9:47 am
Re: Paddle: Feathered vs Unfeathered
fred Gasper -- 12/10/2007, 8:51 am
Re: Paddle: Feathered vs Unfeathered
Mike Savage -- 12/10/2007, 6:18 am
Re: Paddle: Feathered vs Unfeathered
Bill Hamm -- 12/10/2007, 3:41 am
Re: Paddle: Feathered vs Unfeathered
JohnK -- 12/10/2007, 2:59 am
A different POV
Dave Gentry -- 12/9/2007, 11:26 pm
Re: A different POV??
Randy Knauff -- 12/10/2007, 1:21 am
Feathering advantage is real
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 12/10/2007, 11:28 am
Re: Feathering advantage is real
Rob Macks / Laughing Loon------WebKitFormBoundaryU -- 12/11/2007, 11:44 am
Re: Feathering advantage is real
Kris Buttermore -- 12/19/2007, 1:59 pm
Not either/or but appropriate both
Randy Knauff -- 12/10/2007, 4:05 pm
Re: Not either/or but appropriate both
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 12/10/2007, 7:30 pm
Yes, a different POV
Dave Gentry -- 12/10/2007, 3:31 am
Question
Jay Babna -- 12/10/2007, 8:39 am
Re: Question
Bill Hamm -- 12/12/2007, 1:46 am
Re: Question
Dave Gentry -- 12/10/2007, 1:50 pm
The Whitewater Perspective------WebKitFormBoundary *LINK*
GlazedDonut------WebKitFormBoundaryCg1JNknuAcMS+s6 -- 12/10/2007, 10:30 pm
Re: The Whitewater Perspective------WebKitFormBoun
Dave Gentry -- 12/10/2007, 11:49 pm
Re: The Whitewater Perspective------WebKitFormBoun
Duane Strosaker -- 12/10/2007, 11:45 pm
Re: Question------WebKitFormBoundaryJred+soBaAm3Im
Jay Babna------WebKitFormBoundaryJred+soBaAm3Imqe -- 12/10/2007, 3:15 pm
Re: Question------WebKitFormBoundaryJred+soBaAm3Im
Kris Buttermore -- 12/10/2007, 4:20 pm
Re: Question------WebKitFormBoundaryJred+soBaAm3Im
Mike Savage -- 12/10/2007, 5:28 pm
Well...
Pedro Almeida -- 12/10/2007, 8:47 am