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Re: Skin-on-Frame: New Skin coating
By:Bill Hamm
Date: 11/7/2010, 1:37 am
In Response To: Skin-on-Frame: New Skin coating *PIC* (Dave Gentry)

: I've been using this in lieu of thickened epoxy on a number of
: projects, and it occurred to me that is might also be useful as
: a skin coating. So I tried it, on a test scrap. What is it? It's
: PL Premium Polyurethane Construction Adhesive.

: This is a completely waterproof, very strong adhesive that sticks
: to a large variety of substances, including wood, metal,
: fiberglass, masonry, ceramic tile, marble, etc. It also adheres
: extremely well to fabric, as it turns out. It's thick, gap
: filling, and comes in a tube that you use with a caulking gun.
: There are two tube sizes, and the smaller produces a bead 30
: lineal feet long.

: I tried it on a scrap of 8oz polyester, which I commonly use for
: skinning kayaks. A 2-3" bead covered about a square foot of
: fabric, and was best applied with a rubber spatula. I put on a
: single coat. It spread quick and easy, though it was difficult
: to tell if I had completely covered an area. It only just
: changed the fabric color - making it look like it had been
: soaked in water. The glue did not migrate through the weave to
: the opposite side of the material. It filled the weave on the
: one side very well.

: I let it dry for a few days (though dry time is much less), then
: examined it. The fabric was stiffer, but still easily fold-able.
: It did not hold a crease, and no cracks or chips were observed.
: I could not scrape it off with a fingernail, a board or then a
: brick. The finish is slightly glossy.

: Then I tossed it into a tub of water - for 4 days. That's at least
: 86 hours longer than I've ever had a kayak continuously in the
: water, FYI.
: After 4 days, the fabric and coating was entirely unchanged. It was
: still flexible, I still could not scrape off the coating, it
: showed no signs of delamination, cracking, peeling, etc. Making
: a cone of the scrap, and filling it with water, still produced
: zero leakage.

: I do not know anything about its UV resistance, or its
: paint-ability. I surmise that dyeing the skin first - a common
: practice - would be the way to go for various skin colors. When
: I get time, I'll paint some and see what happens. It is
: "moisture curing," so perhaps mixing acrylic or
: watercolor paints into it might work to tint it. I'll have to
: experiment with that, too. Calling the manufacturer seems like a
: good idea, as well.

: In sum, my initial trials are leading me to the conclusion that
: this could be a very viable, easy to apply, very tough and - at
: $3-4/tube - not particularly expensive skin coating option. I
: have a boat in mind that I will try it on, and I, of course,
: invite any of you to try it, too - on a piece of scrap, or
: perhaps an entire boat.

: Dave Gentry

: Specs here:
:
: http://files.buildsite.com/dbderived-f/pl/derived_files/derived267834.pdf

Interesting Dave, nice to see that builders are willing to try new things :)

Bill H.

Messages In This Thread

Skin-on-Frame: New Skin coating *PIC*
Dave Gentry -- 10/31/2010, 11:33 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: New Skin coating
Tim Abbott -- 3/11/2011, 5:37 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: New Skin coating
TheLuckyOne -- 3/12/2011, 8:54 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: New Skin coating
Bill Hamm -- 3/13/2011, 12:36 am
workbench top of MDF?
Paul G. Jacobson -- 3/13/2011, 1:03 am
Re: workbench top of MDF?
Bill Hamm -- 3/14/2011, 12:15 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: New Skin coating
Dave Gentry -- 3/12/2011, 10:45 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: New Skin coating
TheLuckyOne -- 3/13/2011, 10:30 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: New Skin coating
Paul G. Jacobson -- 3/13/2011, 1:21 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: New Skin coating
Tim Abbott -- 3/13/2011, 11:00 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: New Skin coating
Dave Gentry -- 3/11/2011, 7:07 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: New Skin coating
Mike Bielski -- 3/11/2011, 10:46 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: New Skin coating
Bill Hamm -- 3/12/2011, 8:24 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: New Skin coating
Mike Bielski -- 3/12/2011, 9:10 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: New Skin coating
Bill Hamm -- 3/12/2011, 9:32 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: New Skin coating
Tim Abbott -- 3/12/2011, 9:55 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: New Skin coating
Bill Hamm -- 3/12/2011, 10:12 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: New Skin coating *PIC*
Tim Abbott -- 3/12/2011, 8:46 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: New Skin coating
Bill Hamm -- 3/12/2011, 9:33 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: New Skin coating
Tim Abbott -- 3/11/2011, 10:00 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: New Skin coating
Kudzu -- 3/12/2011, 7:39 am
Wetted-out Skin coating
Paul G. Jacobson -- 3/12/2011, 11:11 am
Re: Wetted-out Skin coating
Kudzu -- 3/12/2011, 11:20 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: New Skin coating
Dave Gentry -- 3/11/2011, 10:48 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: New Skin coating
Tim Abbott -- 3/11/2011, 11:10 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: New Skin coating
John VanBuren -- 11/7/2010, 7:36 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: New Skin coating
Bill Hamm -- 11/7/2010, 1:37 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: New Skin coating
Noel Bennett -- 11/3/2010, 3:25 pm
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Kudzu -- 11/3/2010, 3:42 pm
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Noel Bennett -- 11/3/2010, 4:13 pm
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Prasad Bhatla -- 11/6/2010, 6:39 pm
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Noel Bennett -- 11/7/2010, 1:11 pm
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Dave Gentry -- 11/2/2010, 3:11 pm
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Noel Bennett -- 11/2/2010, 4:59 pm
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Dave Gentry -- 11/2/2010, 7:04 pm
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Will Clarke -- 11/3/2010, 10:09 pm
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Noel Bennett -- 11/2/2010, 7:53 pm
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John lasky -- 11/2/2010, 11:23 am
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Will Clarke -- 11/1/2010, 12:32 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: New Skin coating
Ken Blanton -- 10/31/2010, 6:48 pm
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Kudzu -- 10/31/2010, 4:29 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: New Skin coating
Dave Gentry -- 10/31/2010, 5:28 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: New Skin coating
Noel Bennett -- 10/31/2010, 4:26 pm