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Re: Durability worries
By:Pete Rudie
Date: 3/27/2001, 12:27 am
In Response To: Durability worries (Jim P.)

I read with some amusement the following from GR's website:

>If you are looking for "professional" confirmation of your opinions, you can >find it. There are a lot of "professional" builders who choose to build poor >quality boats. They will help you build poor quality boats. Will the boats be >suitable for your purposes? I have no idea. I only know they are not suitable >for my wife's use. (I value her more than I value me.)
>During the 60's and 70's many "professionals" built wood core fiberglass >boats. Those boats are now mostly rotting. Why? Because the builders used good >materials which they adulterated for ease of application. Those builders and >those they taught are still around.
>The materials have changed since the 60's and 70's but the >current "professionals" still choose to adulterate their materials and build >poor quality boats - the big difference is they now choose to start with poor >materials.
>60's and 70's "professionals", current "professionals", and those they have >taught have written books. Those books will tell you how to build poor quality >boats. How? They will instruct you to use poor materials, adulterate the >materials to ease application, and to use poor technique in application. They >will do that without informing you of the risks and tradeoffs. Following their >instructions you will build poor quality boats. Will the boats be suitable for >your purposes? Again, I have no idea.
>I have been rather abusive here. I am that way because ... If you are looking >for help, there is no easy way for you to distinguish between good help and >poor help.

Then we find out that:

: "After a proper period of curing I put the boat in the water and paddled
: to Mackinaw Island from the mainland. Landing in 6" chop on a shore
: comprised of sand with a few 6" diameter rocks put a hole in the hull
: - a 12" tear through the cloth and along the strips in the
: hull."

This is the only story I have heard about a catastrophic failure of a strip-built kayak. And this from a 5'3" paddler in an engineering masterpiece during near-calm conditions. George, you are a self-aggrandizing gasbag.

Messages In This Thread

Durability worries
Jim P. -- 3/23/2001, 10:29 pm
Re: Durability worries
Pete Rudie -- 3/27/2001, 12:27 am
Re: G.R. :)
Dean Trexel -- 3/27/2001, 12:16 pm
Re: G.R. :)
Bruce -- 3/27/2001, 12:54 pm
:) *NM*
Bruce -- 3/27/2001, 11:10 am
Re: :) :) :) :) :) *NM*
Grant Goltz -- 3/27/2001, 10:25 am
Re: Durability worries
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 3/26/2001, 11:10 am
durability? build a second boat :)
Paul G. Jacobson -- 3/26/2001, 2:53 am
Re: durability? build a second boat :)
Jim P. -- 3/26/2001, 8:28 am
Re: durability? build a lighter third boat!
Lee Gardner -- 3/26/2001, 3:03 pm
Re: Durability worries
Bruce -- 3/25/2001, 9:48 pm
Re: Don't worry
Lee Gardner -- 3/24/2001, 11:40 am
Re: Durability (don't) worries
Mike -- 3/24/2001, 11:16 am
Re: Durability worries
Julie Kanarr -- 3/24/2001, 9:38 am
Re: Durability worries
Rob Macks -- 3/24/2001, 8:43 am
Re: Durability worries
Mike Hanks -- 3/23/2001, 11:09 pm