Mike, Right, the "climate" has been a lot better as of late. Thanks Lee for not promoting any holy wars!!

I too think both companies design good products; you'd have to agree, though, that the competition bashing a year ago was just a little too much.

Shawn

: Shawn,

: I haven't heard any bashing from either of these companies for some time. Lee
: at CLC speaks highly of Pygmys, and I talked to John Lockwood at Pygmy and
: and he had good things to say about CLC. The people on this board have
: also been very good, not getting into a Pygmy vs. CLC war.

: Both companies have good kayaks, some models are better than others for
: certain things, but I like both companies, although I haven't built a CLC
: yet.

: I figured out why CLCs tend to come out overweight and Pygmys tend to be
: closer to their spec weight. Pygmy gives you just enough glass and 'poxy,
: while CLC gives you (or recommends to you with plans) more than you need.
: Just an observation in one of the differences between the companies.

: Mike