: Thanks guys. As always- much appreciated.

: What kind of knot are y'all using for tying off? I'm not thinking
: these will be grab handles - just something to hang onto the
: boat if I become separated and/or for hooking a biner into for
: towing.

Hi Doug,
I use the full loop idea for the end loops. I use kinda fisherman's bend, the right side around the left and vice versa. These slip toward each other with tension and lock against each other. If the bends are long enough it gives a good handle on the loop.

For hanging onto the kayak, perimeter lines are better.

Mike Savage
South West Cork