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Re: Skin-on-Frame: Glued frame or not
By:Daniel from sweden
Date: 1/24/2009, 5:50 pm
In Response To: Re: Skin-on-Frame: Glued frame or not *Pic* (Dave Gentry)

: Hi Daniel - Tom Yost is the guru, but I'll give you my thoughts: I suppose
: you are building a wooden framed non-folder, just so we are working on the
: same assumption?
: Definitely go with thickened epoxy for your glue. It is gap filling, which
: polyurethane glues are not(that foam is mostly just air), and you can make
: fillets at the stringer/frame connections which make these connections
: very strong. See Tom's website for directions.

: As for skin, that is a personal choice. There's polyester (like Dacron),
: nylon, canvas, the multilayer PVC Tom recommends, and even transparent
: vinyl. They all work. I have used all of these except the polyester. It is
: similar to nylon, but heat shrinks better. It is not quite as puncture
: resistant, according to tests I have seen.

: The advantaged of the PVC or vinyl is that there is no sewing, and they don't
: need any coatings after the boat is skinned. They only come in a few basic
: colors, though, and you may or may not be able to get them very tight
: and/or wrinkle free.

: I've decided I prefer fabrics like ballistic nylon - but only because I think
: it looks like a SOF "should." It is strong, but it needs to be
: sewed and coated. I've also used canvas (#10 duck is the standard), but I
: think it is not very strong, and there are potential rot issues if you
: paddle in fresh water only.

: A slightly higher rear deck will make it much more difficult for you to do
: layback rolls. With a good C to C roll, that won't matter, though.

: Your English is fine.

: Check out the qajaqusa.org site for more info on SOF kayaks.

: Here's yet another pic of my Yost Sea Rover, covered in 12 oz ballistic nylon
: purchased from George Dyson. He has a variety of material for sale:
: gdyson@gmail.com

: Good luck!

Hi
Thank´s for the fast answer, I´ll go for the epoxi then.
About the skin it stands between nylon and canvas (either cotton or linen)

Nice boat, hope mine will look half as good as your´s.

Messages In This Thread

Skin-on-Frame: Glued frame or not
Clayton Plunkett -- 1/19/2009, 8:18 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Glued frame or not
Randy Knauff -- 1/21/2009, 4:47 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Glued frame or not
Will Clarke -- 1/21/2009, 7:36 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Glued frame or not
Bill Hamm -- 1/22/2009, 2:12 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Glued frame or not
Will Clarke -- 1/23/2009, 8:10 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Glued frame or not *Pic*
Dave Gentry -- 1/21/2009, 10:20 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Glued frame or not
Doug S -- 1/22/2009, 8:17 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Glued frame or not
Bill Hamm -- 1/25/2009, 1:06 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Glued frame or not
Daniel from sweden -- 1/24/2009, 1:18 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Glued frame or not
Bill Hamm -- 1/25/2009, 1:09 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Glued frame or not *Pic*
Dave Gentry -- 1/24/2009, 3:34 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Glued frame or not
Daniel from sweden -- 1/24/2009, 5:50 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Glued frame or not
Dave Gentry -- 1/23/2009, 9:27 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Glued frame or not
Tom Yost -- 1/21/2009, 7:51 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Glued frame or not
Jay Babina -- 1/20/2009, 9:11 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Glued frame or not
Dave Isbell -- 1/19/2009, 11:10 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Glued frame or not
Scott Shurlow -- 1/19/2009, 8:36 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Glued frame or not
Clayton Plunkett -- 1/19/2009, 9:35 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Glued frame or not
Scott Shurlow -- 1/20/2009, 4:47 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Glued frame or not
Mike Bielski -- 1/20/2009, 9:09 am