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Re: "Yost Style" F1?
By:Carl Delo
Date: 7/2/2008, 10:18 am
In Response To: "Yost Style" F1? (Michael Collins)

: Well that would explain it!
: What do you all think about building one of these with Tom Yost's
: construction style? Time is the key factor here. I think it could go
: together pretty quickly building the 8 ribs shown in the diagram either by
: cutting them from plywood or as beefed up laminations. Brian is very
: adamant about not playing with the lines of the design, but I wonder how
: this would impact performance. With more deformation of the fabric, I
: imagine there would be slightly more drag... any other consequences? 8 Cut
: outs is a lot easier than 28 steam bent ribs. Maybe also go with PVC
: rather than the more time consuming ballistic nylon.

: On building time for one of these in general. I just can't see how these take
: so long to build. In my highly inexperienced mind it's simple. Just to
: throw out some crude numbers to illustrate a point: 1 day to cut ribs,
: 1 day to cut / scarf lengthwise pieces
: 1 day to cut the joining things at stern and bow and to make the cockpit
: 1 day to finish the pieces and begin assembly
: 1 day to finish assembly and seal the wood
: 1-2 days to skin the boat depending on whether or not the skin needs to be
: painted/sealed

: I'm going to have to try this just to see where all the extra hours come in!

: Regards,

: Mike

You forgot to add in a day every other day to stand around and stare at the thing trying to decide if you're doing it right, preferably while holding a cup of coffee and talking to someone who has also built a boat - this is called "professional consultation" ;)

Seriously though, I built an SC-1 with Brian last summer (the precursor to the F-1). With him leading us through it step-by-step and with a few things done ahead of time, it took 8 days - I don't think it could happen much quicker than that. I've been working on my current Yost-style build for a month and am about halfway there.

My SC-1 is a truly sweet boat, so if you can build the F-1 truly and closely to spec I think you will be very happy as the F-1 is an improved version (I'm still happy though). A majority of people who try it would like to have one of their own.

By the way, I believe the 8 cross sections on the F-1 drawing are simply the survey locations used to measure the hull - they don't correspond to anything structural inside the boat. If you did a Yost-style frame, you would have to decide on bulkhead locations to give the right shape - that rear chine is heavily bent, so might some extra bulkhead support.

Carl

Messages In This Thread

Skin-on-Frame: Cape Falcon F1
Michael Collins -- 7/2/2008, 1:18 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Cape Falcon F1
Bryan Hansel -- 7/2/2008, 10:03 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Cape Falcon F1
Michael Collins -- 7/2/2008, 10:05 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Cape Falcon F1
Bryan Hansel -- 7/3/2008, 9:44 pm
Link I Forgot to Include *NM* *LINK*
Michael -- 7/2/2008, 11:27 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Cape Falcon F1
Mike Savage -- 7/2/2008, 5:56 am
"Yost Style" F1?
Michael Collins -- 7/2/2008, 10:03 am
Re: "Yost Style" F1?
Mike Savage -- 7/2/2008, 1:31 pm
Re: "Yost Style" F1?
Glen Smith -- 7/2/2008, 2:10 pm
Ribs?
Michael Collins -- 7/2/2008, 5:43 pm
Re: Ribs?
Ruedi -- 4/15/2009, 11:12 pm
Re: Ribs?
Aaron H -- 7/2/2008, 5:54 pm
Point of Inquiry
Michael Collins -- 7/3/2008, 1:14 am
Re: Point of Inquiry
Aaron H -- 7/3/2008, 1:00 pm
Re: Point of Inquiry
Mike Savage -- 7/3/2008, 4:12 am
Re: Point of Inquiry
Michael Collins -- 7/3/2008, 10:38 am
Why Dowels?
Michael Collins -- 7/2/2008, 6:55 pm
Re: Why Dowels?
Carl Delo -- 7/3/2008, 8:36 pm
Re: Why Dowels?
Dave Gentry -- 7/3/2008, 6:50 pm
Re: Why Dowels?
Aaron H -- 7/3/2008, 1:14 pm
Re: Ribs?
Michael Collins -- 7/2/2008, 5:58 pm
Re: "Yost Style" F1?
Carl Delo -- 7/2/2008, 10:18 am