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Re: Skin-on-Frame: identification
By:Kris Buttermore
Date: 11/2/2007, 7:14 pm
In Response To: Re: Skin-on-Frame: identification (Reg Lake)

Bingo! I just got home and flipped through my copy of "Baidarka". Several more pictures there, and the design is listed among the other line drawings at the back of the book. Definitely looks like same design but definitely not the same boat (one in the book is pretty clearly a classic Dyson aluminum frame with differences already noted).

The wood version looks nicer! Some nice details. Cool to see, thanks for sharing! Curious as to weight, etc. Also be nice to see a lot more pictures, particularly of the inside construction.

To sell it, it would be good to get the history. Maybe George built in wood as well, maybe others built it - odds are he would know.

Price? How does one judge? Try locally, though word of mouth (more reason to contact George Dyson) and through the commercial forum on QajaqUSA for a while.

If you can't decide on a price, might try an eBay listing (and mention that again via same channels). Just make the minimum bid the lowest you'd be OK with so you don't lose out - and see where it goes from there. Being such a unique item, you might want to go for a long auction time frame, and be prepared to re-list it if it doesn't go first time around. Be very clear on terms (no shipping/local pick-up/etc.).

Of course, if feeling charitable, you might also find some museum with room for it. Though maybe not exactly native history, it is still interesting small craft history (and who knows, it could have been built by native peoples re-inspired by George's work).

Kris

: It has a lot of the Dyson influence, design and material and appears to be
: the two hatch Baidarka that George designed in 1983 and built in 1984.
: Since his book was first published in 1986, you can bet that this came
: after that and the builder chose wood instead of the aluminum tubing. The
: other difference I see is the tear drop cockpits on yours, where George's
: are oval.

: I am 20 minutes from Georges shop if you would like me to assist in any way
: just contact me.

: Best,

: Reg

: Ps,
: My personal opinion is that George's "Baidarka" book and Kenneth
: Browers "The Starship and the Canoe" were the major catalysts
: for the revival of traditional sof kayaks. Followers quickly went back to
: wood frames. You have a nice slice of this history in your possesion.

Messages In This Thread

Skin-on-Frame: identification *Pic*
Chris L Moore -- 11/1/2007, 5:24 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: identification
William Cruz -- 11/2/2007, 2:43 pm
THANKS! PRICE? Re: Skin-on-Frame: identification
Chris L Moore -- 11/2/2007, 2:25 pm
Re: THANKS! PRICE?
Paul G. Jacobson -- 11/7/2007, 4:50 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: identification
Reg Lake -- 11/2/2007, 1:28 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: identification
Kris Buttermore -- 11/2/2007, 7:14 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: identification *Pic*
Paul G. Jacobson -- 11/1/2007, 6:30 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: IDENTIFIED?
Kris Buttermore -- 11/2/2007, 11:41 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: identification
Mike Savage -- 11/1/2007, 5:44 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: identification
Oliver Bloch -- 11/1/2007, 5:37 pm