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Re: Frame Bending - Springback formula
By:Bram van der Sluys
Date: 7/4/1998, 5:40 pm
In Response To: Re: Frame Bending - Springback formula (Dave Greenway)

Sorry Dave, I either don't understand or I don't think the formulas for springback apply across the board. In my latest Aluetian Kayak I have made many laminated frames which end up roughly 20 inches wide and 10 to 12 inches deep. They are formed within the framework of the kayak and not a form and are usually of 2 laminations. Thus the depth of spring, as I read the formula description, is the 10 or 12 inch depth of the boat and the sringback would be 2.5 to 3 inches. Observed springback rarely exceeds 1/8 inch. This is out by more than an order of magnitude and does not compute. Is there an explaination out there?

Regards: Bram

> Although this might not strictly apply to your situation, it
> may be applicable (you decide). If nothing else this formula may be
> of use to others in that you can use it to create frames, combings,
> etc. that are more accurate.

> An article on bent laminations (FWW #115, pp. 70-75), I'm offering
> a way of determining the degree of springback after the lamination
> is removed from the form. I became interested in this problem when
> I made a pair of chairs from reclaimed teak. The curved members of
> the seat and back were laminated from stock about 1/4 in. thick. I
> needed to determine in advance the amount the lamination would spring
> back when the clamps were released.

> I discovered that for many situations, a delightfully

> simple solution followed from the application of

> beam-bending theory, as illustrated in the drawing.

> A number of plies of similar wood (n) are glued

> and clamped to a curved form, which is shaped to

> give the lamination a deflection of "x." When the

> clamps are removed, the lamination springs away

> from the form by an amount "y." Exactly how

> much springback can be predicted with the

> formula y = x/n2.

> The ratio of springback to the original deflection

> depends only on the number of laminations. The

> ratio does not depend on the properties or

> thickness of the wood or the geometry of the

> curved form. Thus, for two plies, the springback is

> one-quarter of the initial deflection, or one-ninth

> for three plies and one-sixteenth for four plies.

> --Bill Clayden, Isle of Wight, England

Messages In This Thread

Frame Bending Lesson
Duane Strosaker -- 6/28/1998, 12:27 pm
Re: Frame Bending - Springback formula
Dave Greenway -- 7/1/1998, 2:23 pm
Re: Frame Bending - Springback formula
Bram van der Sluys -- 7/4/1998, 5:40 pm
Re: Frame Bending - Springback formula
Mark Kanzler -- 7/1/1998, 4:30 pm
Re: Frame Bending - Springback formula
Mike Spence -- 7/1/1998, 4:57 pm
Re: Frame Bending Tragedy
Mark Kanzler -- 6/29/1998, 3:55 pm
Re: Have you done it
Duane Strosaker -- 6/30/1998, 12:41 pm
Re: Have you done it?
Mark Kanzler -- 7/1/1998, 12:22 am
Been there, done it a bit
Paul Jacobson -- 6/30/1998, 1:25 am
Re: Been there, done it a bit
Paul Jacobson -- 6/30/1998, 2:07 am
Re: Been there, done it a bit
David Dick -- 6/30/1998, 9:59 am
Re: Tragedy
Roger Tulk -- 6/29/1998, 9:56 pm
Re: Frame Bending Lesson
Roger Tulk -- 6/29/1998, 9:38 am