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Re: redwood vs cedar
By:Don Beale
Date: 2/12/2001, 11:43 am
In Response To: Re: greenland paddle (Greg Stamer)

I finished up my "bent" one last night and will try it this weekend. It is the same overall length as the prior solid cedar one, with a shorter loom and slightly narrower blades (3-1/4" vs 3-3/4). It's made of two pcs of 1x4 redwood, laminated up the middle, with a fir spline at the tips.

The redwood is lighter than the cedar, tho I have no accurate scale to check. They are close but the redwood is a little lighter. This may be due to the narrower blades, but I dont think so. It has no finish yet, oil may even them up.
The redwood is a little stiffer. And it is very soft wood, even sanding it with the surface on the table mars it up pretty good.

: A Greenland paddle shaft is quite short as is. If you are looking for a
: technical challenge then you might find making a hollow core interesting.
: On the other hand, keep in mind that each lamination adds weight from the
: glue, and epoxy or varnish finishes also add weight (and reduce the
: buoyancy of the paddle). If you truly want a lightweight Greenland paddle,
: the simplest approach is to use a solid piece of western red cedar with
: vertical grain and don't apply a finish.

: I was working with a paddler this weekend who was using a Malone
: "Firestorm" Greenland-inspired paddle. He was very surprised at
: how much lighter my cedar paddle was. Also the buoyancy was much
: different. The solid paddle, held vertically, floated with only about nine
: inches of the paddle blade under the water, the laminated paddle sunk down
: to the paddle shaft. I find the extra buoyancy to very helpful. Of course
: his paddle would fare better for encounters with oyster bars. As always
: YMMV.

: Greg Stamer
: Orlando, Florida

Messages In This Thread

greenland paddle
risto -- 2/10/2001, 7:50 am
Re: greenland paddle
Kent LeBoutillier -- 2/12/2001, 6:11 am
Re: greenland paddle
David Dick -- 2/12/2001, 1:46 pm
Re: greenland paddle
Kent LeBoutillier -- 2/13/2001, 6:04 am
hollow greenland paddle
risto -- 2/12/2001, 9:52 am
Another hollow shaft issue
mike allen ---> -- 2/14/2001, 8:21 pm
Re: hollow greenland paddle
Kent LeBoutillier -- 2/12/2001, 11:35 am
details of construction
risto -- 2/12/2001, 12:24 pm
Re: greenland paddle
Greg Stamer -- 2/11/2001, 11:20 pm
Re: Oyster bar
Scotty -- 2/14/2001, 12:00 pm
Re: Oyster bar *Pic*
Greg Stamer -- 2/14/2001, 1:46 pm
Re: New meaning to "Rodoe"
Dave Braun -- 2/16/2001, 9:19 am
Do a roll! Do a Roll!!
Ross Leidy -- 2/14/2001, 2:38 pm
Re: redwood vs cedar
Don Beale -- 2/12/2001, 11:43 am
Thanks for the insights,
risto -- 2/12/2001, 10:11 am
Re: Thanks for the insights,
David Dick -- 2/12/2001, 1:56 pm
Re: Thanks for the insights,
Greg Stamer -- 2/12/2001, 10:46 am
Re: Kayaking in Orlando? OT
David Dick -- 2/12/2001, 1:59 pm
Re: Kayaking in Orlando? OT
Greg Stamer -- 2/12/2001, 2:27 pm
No "wet blanket", quite the contrary,
risto -- 2/12/2001, 11:14 am
Re: greenland paddle
David Dick -- 2/10/2001, 3:38 pm
Re: greenland paddle
John Monfoe -- 2/11/2001, 2:51 am