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Re: Destructive testing
By:Don Beale
Date: 10/12/1999, 7:20 pm
In Response To: Destructive testing (Dean Trexel)

> 1) Would I be gaining new knowledge, or would I be wasting my time by
> re-inventing the wheel? If there are any internet links to the test that
> was already done, I'd appreciate a post...

Check the archives, this always generates good discussion. You would not be re-inventing the wheel.

> 2) What would be the best test to perform? I was thinking of using
> 12" square panels, supported (but not clamped) on 2 edges, with an
> increasing load placed on a board running down the center. (a 3-point
> bending load)

3-point load seems to be the preferred test, Gougeon Bros. did some and published thier results, which are in an earlier thread. Run a search for "laugh it up" and I think you'll find it. I printed it out for reference.

My question is this: How will you measure the load? Is there some sort of a scale available that could be used with the likes of a bottle jack? I was thinking of a jig, but have not yet had time to persue it.

> 3) What would constitute a panel's failure? Audible crack? Revealing of
> cloth weave due to stress? Wood broken through?

I think all three of those things need to be recorded and measured if possible. Most tests I have heard of are to failure, with notes about the type of failure. I'd sure like to see a concensus on the test procedure. Also, I have never seen test results on materials used in production boats (fiberglass, kevlar, rotomolded plastic). It would give us a baseline.

Messages In This Thread

Destructive testing
Dean Trexel -- 10/12/1999, 6:20 pm
Re: Destructive testing
Nolan -- 10/15/1999, 10:48 am
Re:layups and failure
lee -- 10/14/1999, 8:31 pm
Boatbuilder's Manual
Will Brockman -- 10/15/1999, 1:53 pm
Re: Boatbuilder's Manual
lee -- 10/15/1999, 8:51 pm
Re: last sentence missing
lee -- 10/14/1999, 11:54 pm
Re: Destructive testing
dave -- 10/14/1999, 3:30 pm
Kayakcraft data
Will Brockman -- 10/14/1999, 9:56 am
Re: Kayakcraft data
Mike Hanks -- 10/14/1999, 10:12 am
Re: Kayakcraft data
Will Brockman -- 10/14/1999, 12:14 pm
Re: Kayakcraft data
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 10/14/1999, 11:01 am
Re: test methods and glassing question
Dean Trexel -- 10/13/1999, 5:55 pm
Re: test methods and glassing question
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 10/14/1999, 11:18 am
Other considerations
Paul G. Jacobson -- 10/14/1999, 2:32 am
different tests, different stresses
Dean Trexel -- 10/14/1999, 6:54 pm
Re: different tests, different stresses
Dean Trexel -- 10/14/1999, 7:52 pm
Re: Destructive testing
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 10/13/1999, 12:26 pm
suggestion for test panels
Paul G. Jacobson -- 10/13/1999, 4:58 am
Re: Destructive testing
Ian Johnston -- 10/13/1999, 12:35 am
Re: Destructive testing
lee -- 10/12/1999, 10:00 pm
Re: Destructive testing
Don Beale -- 10/12/1999, 7:20 pm