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Re: First time kayak builder
By:john
Date: 4/6/1999, 4:43 pm
In Response To: Re: First time kayak builder (Jack Martin)

Just like a couple of the posters below, it was practically impossible for me to test paddle any kayak, much less a home built one, before I made mine. In fact, I had never even seen a sea kayak except in book and magazines. In the last several years (since I've gotten into kayaking and started paying attention) I've only seen a couple in my area. Sea kayaks just aren't popular in my area.

I say just read through the literature, pick a good all-around boat, and make it - and then don't do anything stupid or get in over your head until you gain experience paddling. If you live in an area like I do, you'll have to teach yourself everything (with books, magazines, videos, etc).

> Paul's points are all very good segments in a boat selection checklist.
> But, reading his response, I'm wondering if most potential builders of
> either S&G or strip built kayaks have ever actually paddled their chosen
> boat before they build it. Of if they've ever even paddled kayaks before.

> I'm in the process of building my first S&G --- a CLC North Bay --- but
> I've been sea paddling for over eight years, and would never consider
> buying a kayak I hadn't paddled in various sea conditions to actually
> determine how it works and, more importantly, how effectively I function
> in that particular boat. Living in the Annapolis, Maryland area, I have
> the distinct advantage of being able to paddle virtually any CLC boat at
> least once a month during the summmer, and plan to attend CLC's Okumestock
> next month, so experience in specific models and subjective judgments on
> my dynamic interface with these boats has never been a problem. (Made my
> decision to build the North Bay a no-brainer.) But none of my regular
> paddling buddies or I would possibly consider making the investment
> necessary to purchase a composite boat, for example, without going to one
> or more of the national or regional paddling shows and working all
> potential boat options hard on open water before making a choice. Maybe
> it's the marginal relative cost of plans and materials or the cost of a
> kit that draws people to choose a specific boat through reading about
> boats or relying on the opinions of others, but, as a moderately
> experienced paddler, I can't understand or appreciate the logic here.
> Basically, ya' gotta paddle a boat to know if it's right for you.

> When Chris Kulczycki told me that a significant proportion of his kits and
> plans were sold to people with no paddling experience whatsoever, I was
> really amazed. Now, having spoken with some of these folks in preparation
> for the Chesapeake Paddler Association's "newbies'" workshop
> later this month, I can appreciate this fact a lot better. (There are a
> lot of folks paddling S&G boats with virtually no training in even the
> basics of sea paddling.) But I still have a lot of trouble with the idea
> of choosing a boat soley from a thorough search of the paddling media ---
> and, again, I don't mean this as a put down of the excellent points that
> Paul made in his response. I just think that one awfully important point
> is missing: the individual's personal reaction to the boat, to the way it
> paddles, to how he or she feels in the boat, and to how he or she feels
> they look in the boat --- an important subjective element, as well.

> The opportunities to paddle prototype boats are there, but, obviously,
> they will be relatively more available for some than for others. But
> options are still there. If at all possible, add paddling the chosen model
> to your personal checklist on a first boat decision, and definitely get
> some formal or informal training in sea kayaking if you're also a
> first-time paddler.

> Maybe that's just me, but I guess this point segues into another question:
> just how much actual paddling experience and training do we, as wooden
> boat builders, typically have in sea paddling? And if the answer is
> "not much", what do we do about that fact? I know that this
> probably opens up issues which belong on another forum, but maybe it's
> worth considering at least as an off-BBS topic.

> Jack Martin

Messages In This Thread

First time kayak builder
Brandon PAge -- 4/6/1999, 12:31 am
go rent a few..
erez -- 4/6/1999, 11:33 pm
Re: First time kayak builder
Carol Eloranta -- 4/6/1999, 3:07 pm
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Pete Rudie -- 4/6/1999, 12:56 pm
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Stan Heeres -- 4/6/1999, 12:40 pm
Another first timer
Bernie Farmer -- 4/6/1999, 8:50 am
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Nolan Penney -- 4/6/1999, 8:19 am
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Paul Jacobson -- 4/6/1999, 1:50 am
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Jack Martin -- 4/6/1999, 8:59 am
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Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 4/7/1999, 9:24 am
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J.D. -- 4/7/1999, 9:36 pm
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Robert Woodard -- 4/6/1999, 8:53 pm
Egg on my face
Paul Jacobson -- 4/6/1999, 8:17 pm
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john -- 4/6/1999, 4:43 pm
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Shawn Baker -- 4/6/1999, 3:08 pm
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Jack Martin -- 4/6/1999, 11:34 pm
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Joe Greenley -- 4/7/1999, 7:14 pm
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Shawn Baker -- 4/7/1999, 10:17 am
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Stan Heeres -- 4/6/1999, 12:32 pm
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Chris Bush -- 4/8/1999, 8:13 am
Congrats
Paul Jacobson -- 4/10/1999, 10:50 pm