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Re: Another flush hatch idea
By:Mike Allen
Date: 2/15/1999, 3:15 pm
In Response To: Another flush hatch idea (Bob Hysen)

Interesting idea. I'm not familiar w/ the exact fitting (but I've seen sim.) but your post sent me back to look at a furniture hardware catalogue to see if some similar fittings were there. Boy oh boy oh boy ! - they've got all kinds of fun stuff in there!

But back to your idea. Specifically, I can think of only one type of pin that uses a controlled detained ball - the socket wrench. Locking socket wrenches lock the socket with a ball bearing and release it by pushing an internal pin that has a round depression that the ball rolls into thereby releasing the socket. I guess if expense, weight and sand contamintion were no object, maybe one could do this - Yeah right!. But there will be others - but I think ball detents and their locking mechanisms are complex. And you would need a different arm to release each pin. And all those little buttons would be visib le.

Stepping back, what you really have is a mortise and a tenon - with the tenon being variable. Well, there are bunches of these! Mostly visible, though. The simplest being just a screw bolt from the hatch into "t" nuts (etc.) in the flange....

An invisible variation:

Aligned hidden pins pointing down from the hatch (say 3 ea side), pins large enough (say 3/8"d) for holes or slots cut in the end. Holes thru the flange and (hatch or flange) gasket so that the pins protrude into the volume below. A guideway from the cockpit to the pins to guide a rod thru the pins. Or a guide way for a moveable channel if slotted pins. To remove hatch, just pull the rod on ea side.

Anyway, I guess there are lots of ways, but what about some of the other stuff I saw in the catalog? What about cabinet height and sideways adusters used to attach the forms? One knobs adjusts vertical and the other for horizontal. Adjustment about 1/2" ( I think). At about $3 ea., it might be worth it for some.

Also what about the hardware for knock down furniture? Sand infiltration and corrosion aside, the cam locking system and captured end fittings could easily(sorry, I get carried away) be modified for another type of hidden hatch latching system.

However, I would be really interested to hear what you've come up with. Let us know your progress even if you've rejected the idea.

Messages In This Thread

Another flush hatch idea
Bob Hysen -- 2/12/1999, 4:42 pm
Re: Another flush hatch idea
Mike Allen -- 2/15/1999, 3:15 pm
Re: Another flush hatch idea
Don Edmunds -- 2/16/1999, 10:10 am
Re: Another flush hatch idea
ted -- 2/17/1999, 1:32 pm
Re: Another flush hatch idea
Scotty -- 2/17/1999, 3:19 pm
Re: Another flush hatch idea (Knobs)
eric schade (shearwater-boats) -- 2/25/1999, 5:01 pm
Re: hatch w/knob: More description, please?
Pete Roszyk -- 2/26/1999, 9:33 am
Re: hatch w/knob: last years thread
Tor-Henrik Furmyr -- 3/5/1999, 7:48 am
Re: hatch w/knob: More description, please?
Pete Rudie -- 2/28/1999, 5:54 pm