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Re: Skin-on-Frame: stringer fastening
By:Bill Hamm
Date: 9/14/2012, 9:51 am
In Response To: Re: Skin-on-Frame: stringer fastening (wysedav)

: I encourage you to do what you think is best, I'm only giving
: recommendations based on my experiences. I've been using these
: SOF boat exclusively for the last 3 or 4 years with no joint
: failures. I regularly run a shallow river near my house and have
: hit rocks going from speed to a dead stop with no issues.

: I would definately not use screws as the only method of fastening.
: I'd worry that overtime the continual flexing would open up the
: hole and the joint would fail. The failure maybe catastrophic, a
: failure with a sinew join is most likely just sliding in the
: joint. Stainless screws are expensive. My first boat had some
: screws the joints seem OK but I lashed over them.

: Lashing would take forever if you had to tread it through holes in
: the stringers. If you pull the lashing tight enough there will
: be no bumps in the skin.

: I'm not sure what the test really proves. The test loaded the joint
: in compression with a little bending caused by the impact offset
: from the form. The compression loads could be handled entirely
: by the form wether it was fastened or not. The bending moments
: in a complete kayak would be resisted by the skin (only
: marginally by the joint).

: There are other sites that cater to Greenland kayaks that have a
: very deep SOF following, you might want to post there as well to
: get some more opinions.

Btw, I used 80# test spectra braided fishing line to lash joints on my boats, it's so thin that you'd never see any bump at all. There is no way you could break even one strand of this stuff, let alone 4 or 5. Most sporting goods stores as well as some Walmarts sell it, it's pretty cheap.

Bill H.

Messages In This Thread

Skin-on-Frame: stringer fastening
Peter Lord -- 9/11/2012, 3:45 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: stringer fastening
Bill Hamm -- 9/12/2012, 1:57 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: stringer fastening
Peter Lord -- 9/13/2012, 10:29 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: stringer fastening
ancient kayaker -- 9/13/2012, 6:04 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: stringer fastening
Marc Upchurch -- 9/13/2012, 6:34 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: stringer fastening
ancient kayaker -- 9/13/2012, 11:41 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: stringer fastening
Bill Hamm -- 9/14/2012, 9:47 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: stringer fastening
wysedav -- 9/14/2012, 10:16 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: stringer fastening
wysedav -- 9/13/2012, 11:53 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: stringer fastening
Marc Upchurch -- 9/14/2012, 1:17 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: stringer fastening
Peter Lord -- 9/14/2012, 5:43 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: stringer fastening
wysedav -- 9/14/2012, 8:43 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: stringer fastening
Bill Hamm -- 9/14/2012, 9:51 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: stringer fastening
Bill Hamm -- 9/14/2012, 9:43 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: stringer fastening
Bill Hamm -- 9/14/2012, 9:42 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: stringer fastening
Niven Paine -- 9/14/2012, 4:51 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: stringer fastening
Marc Upchurch -- 9/14/2012, 10:31 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: stringer fastening
Niven Paine -- 9/15/2012, 4:30 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: stringer fastening
Marc Upchurch -- 9/15/2012, 6:16 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: stringer fastening
Niven Paine -- 9/15/2012, 7:40 pm