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Re: S&G: Kayak outrigger design
By:Ancient Kayaker
Date: 10/26/2010, 7:42 pm
In Response To: Re: S&G: Kayak outrigger design (Bill Hamm)

: Planning amas (outrigger floats) don't work, the heeling moment
: from the main hull forces the hull into the water so it won't
: rise up on top on a plane. Long skinny amas work much better.
: How well a sailing canoe/kayak turns depends much on the bottom
: shape. Those with long straight keels turn slowly, not all have
: those shape though and most turn (tack) very easily.

: Bill H.

True about the planing float. However, for any float type I would try to keep the float out of the water for best speed. That is easier in a canoe - which is what I was thinking about at the time - than in the narrow cockpit of a kayak, for which the long skinny ama would be the way to go. The planing ama has more reserve bouyancy for a given amount of material and weight than a skinny design and would take up less space for storage and transport.

Probably the ideal design for a kayak ama would be almost as long as the kayak with a narrow bottom for lowest resistance when slightly immersed and significantly flared sheers to increase the displacement rapidly if it is forced down by a gust. That is what I have seen on modern trimaran designs. In my experience an ama with a lot of down-force on it creates a lot of drag.

Messages In This Thread

S&G: Kayak outrigger design
Alex -- 9/23/2010, 11:47 pm
Re: S&G: Kayak outrigger design
Ancient Kayaker -- 10/16/2010, 12:05 pm
Re: S&G: Kayak outrigger design
Bill Hamm -- 10/17/2010, 1:19 am
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Ancient Kayaker -- 10/26/2010, 7:42 pm
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Ken Brunton -- 10/27/2010, 2:15 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 10/26/2010, 8:59 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 9/24/2010, 10:53 am
Re: S&G: Kayak outrigger design
Bill Hamm -- 9/25/2010, 1:42 am
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Etienne Muller -- 9/25/2010, 5:04 am
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Bill Hamm -- 9/26/2010, 12:28 am
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timt -- 9/24/2010, 8:18 am
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Bill Hamm -- 9/25/2010, 1:40 am
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Dave Gentry -- 9/24/2010, 8:16 am
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Shark Bait -- 9/24/2010, 3:52 am
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Bill Hamm -- 9/24/2010, 1:46 am
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Bill Hamm -- 9/24/2010, 1:46 am