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Re: Strip: Rudders, peddles, seats
By:Will N to Go
Date: 7/21/2010, 11:41 am
In Response To: Re: Strip: Rudders, peddles, seats (Bill Hamm)

Clearly an understern rudder in the skeg position would make for tighter turns, but then there's issues with damage on beach landings, etc... all discussed here with some interesting solutions.

But what about a rudder mounted off one side? My Great Auk seems to have a turn right bias. I can't see it in the keel, but after five years it's clear there's some asymmetry (that we won't solve here. Could also be the paddler.)

So conceivably, I could hang a rudder off the left side of my Great Auk (and this may be a worthwhile test)
How much drag does a rudder really add? (Because of the right-bias I can't tell with my Great Auk. Without a rudder it's a park pony-always turns right, with a rudder--hey it's a kayak!)
If drag from a rudder is not great, then with a new kayak a few tests to see if there's a left or right bias, then hang a rudder off the opposite side.

Will

: What I find interesting is that most of the fast skis use an
: understern rudder while very few kayaks do. Would seem that the
: understern rudder, while obviously not being able to be
: retracted, would reduce the weight and increase the
: effectiveness of the area of the rudder and decrease drag. Of
: course to get out of a ski you fall off, somewhat trickier in a
: kayak at the beach :)

: Bill H.

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Will N to Go -- 7/13/2010, 2:02 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 7/22/2010, 1:21 am
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Larry C. -- 7/18/2010, 5:15 pm
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Larry C. -- 7/18/2010, 5:29 pm
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Larry C. -- 7/18/2010, 5:34 pm
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Alex Ferguson -- 7/19/2010, 5:32 am
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Larry C. -- 7/19/2010, 11:44 am
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Bill Hamm -- 7/19/2010, 3:23 pm
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Will N to Go -- 7/21/2010, 11:41 am
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Will N to Go -- 7/19/2010, 11:38 am
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Mike Savage -- 7/20/2010, 5:52 am
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Will N to Go -- 7/20/2010, 1:29 pm
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Mike Savage -- 7/20/2010, 7:20 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 7/20/2010, 2:24 pm
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Will N to Go -- 7/20/2010, 7:36 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 7/21/2010, 9:21 am
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Larry C. -- 7/21/2010, 1:13 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 7/21/2010, 8:07 pm
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Will N to Go -- 7/22/2010, 1:21 am
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Bill Hamm -- 7/22/2010, 9:29 am
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Will N to Go -- 7/22/2010, 12:48 pm
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Larry C. -- 7/22/2010, 6:45 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 7/22/2010, 2:08 pm
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Will N to Go -- 7/22/2010, 2:27 pm
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Larry C. -- 7/22/2010, 6:54 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 7/22/2010, 3:29 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 7/22/2010, 2:03 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 7/22/2010, 1:58 pm
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Alex Ferguson -- 7/19/2010, 7:37 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 7/19/2010, 3:17 pm
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Larry C. -- 7/18/2010, 5:40 pm
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Larry C. -- 7/18/2010, 5:43 pm
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Larry C. -- 7/18/2010, 5:45 pm
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Larry C. -- 7/18/2010, 5:48 pm
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Larry C. -- 7/18/2010, 6:01 pm
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Larry C. -- 7/18/2010, 6:05 pm
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Will N to Go -- 7/18/2010, 6:39 pm
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Larry C. -- 7/19/2010, 1:47 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 7/19/2010, 3:12 pm
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Larry C. -- 7/19/2010, 6:22 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 7/19/2010, 7:14 pm
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Larry C. -- 7/20/2010, 12:54 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 7/20/2010, 2:17 pm
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Larry C. -- 7/20/2010, 1:02 pm
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Larry C. -- 7/20/2010, 1:13 pm
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Malcolm Schweizer -- 7/14/2010, 10:45 am
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Will N to Go -- 7/14/2010, 5:52 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 7/14/2010, 7:27 am
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Dan Caouette (CSFW) -- 7/14/2010, 10:35 am
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Bill Hamm -- 7/14/2010, 1:14 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 7/14/2010, 1:22 pm
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Alex Ferguson -- 7/14/2010, 6:04 am
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Doug S -- 7/13/2010, 3:48 pm
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Dan Caouette (CSFW) -- 7/13/2010, 5:05 pm