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Re: What about this?
By:Toni V
Date: 1/17/2008, 3:09 pm
In Response To: Re: What about this? (Kris Buttermore)

: Here's my take on "why": Because water optimally flows under the
: kayak and runs more or less straight from front to back along the buttock

I'm curious about this; how did you come to this conclusion? I'm personally thinking that cleaving the water to sides and bottom would be most efficient way in higher speeds. Trying to force too much water under hull can easily make the "rocker effect" where stern creates suction a bit higher speeds.

: The numbers you're running are not shown significant differences because they
: are NOT flow simulators. They're simple calculators factoring areas/ratios
: and such and can't account for the differences in the bow shapes.

I assume Kudzu used Freeship's Kaper. I prefer Michlet because it really calculates the water flow.

Freeship can show water flowlines when pressing alt and clicking a spot underwater. However I couldn't estimate speed by looking at the lines.

Kudzu, you can send the current models to me and I could run them through Michlet if you want. I assume the flat bottom bow should do fine in flat water - not in waves.

Messages In This Thread

S&G: Bow shape Does it make a difference? *Pic*
Kudzu -- 1/16/2008, 8:31 pm
Re: S&G: Bow shape Does it make a difference?
LeeG -- 1/18/2008, 1:49 pm
Re: S&G: Bow shape Does it make a difference?
Bill Hamm -- 1/20/2008, 3:28 am
Re: S&G: Bow shape Does it make a difference?
LeeG -- 1/21/2008, 2:11 pm
Re: S&G: Bow shape Does it make a difference?
Bill Hamm -- 1/20/2008, 3:28 am
Re: S&G: Bow shape Does it make a difference?
LeeG -- 1/18/2008, 1:44 pm
Re: S&G: Bow shape Does it make a difference?
Bryan Hansel -- 1/17/2008, 10:18 pm
Re: S&G: Bow shape Does it make a difference?
Robert McMurray -- 1/17/2008, 11:20 pm
Re: S&G: Bow shape Does it make a difference?
Kudzu -- 1/18/2008, 8:07 am
Re: S&G: Bow shape Does it make a difference?
HenkA -- 1/17/2008, 8:45 pm
What about this?
Kudzu -- 1/17/2008, 8:49 am
Re: What about this?
Bill Hamm -- 1/17/2008, 7:52 pm
Re: What about this?
Kris Buttermore -- 1/17/2008, 12:16 pm
Re: What about... Flat bottom vs V speeds
Toni V -- 1/20/2008, 7:50 am
Re: What about... Flat bottom vs V speeds
Kudzu -- 1/20/2008, 4:24 pm
Re: What about this?
HenkA -- 1/17/2008, 8:52 pm
Re: What about this?
Kris Buttermore -- 1/22/2008, 2:32 pm
Re: What about this?
HenkA -- 1/24/2008, 10:30 pm
Re: What about this?
LeeG -- 1/18/2008, 1:59 pm
Re: What about this?
Toni V -- 1/17/2008, 3:09 pm
Re: What about this?
Kris Buttermore -- 1/22/2008, 2:19 pm
Re: What about this?
Bill Hamm -- 1/23/2008, 2:23 am
Re: What about this?
Kudzu -- 1/17/2008, 9:02 pm
Re: What about this?
Allan Cole -- 1/17/2008, 7:08 pm
Re: What about this?
Allan Cole -- 1/18/2008, 1:39 pm
FrreShip Flow line were useless. *NM*
Kudzu -- 1/17/2008, 2:55 pm
Re: What about this?
Kudzu -- 1/17/2008, 1:37 pm
Re: What about this?
Alex Ferguson -- 1/17/2008, 5:43 pm
Re: S&G: Bow shape Does it make a difference?
Toni V -- 1/17/2008, 3:52 am
Re: S&G: Bow shape Does it make a difference?
Tom Simpson -- 1/18/2008, 7:05 pm
Re: S&G: Bow shape Does it make a difference?
Bill Hamm -- 1/17/2008, 1:42 am