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Re: Weight & Balance
By:Bill Hamm
Date: 1/2/2008, 2:11 am
In Response To: Re: Weight & Balance (Dave Houser)

: Tom,

: You certainly have more experience than I do. I have built only three S&G’s
: and fussed with skegs and seat location to trim for wind. I can only agree
: that it is easier to move the paddler (and seat) if there is room in the
: cockpit opening and clearance forward is usually more available than back.
: In S&G’s bulkheads limit how far the coaming can be moved.

: One can make a good attempt to design a wind neutral kayak by balancing the
: lateral areas above and below the waterline. The wind force acts through
: the centroid of the area above the water. And the lateral force of the
: water acts the centroid of the area under the waterline. So the trick is
: line the two centroids up vertically. If the wind centroid is behind the
: water centroid the kayak will weathercock. So you go to the trouble to
: design a kayak with the length, width, rocker, chine height, center of
: buoyancy location, deck height, bow height, stern height, etc. you want.
: Then you check the lateral areas and centroid locations and then adjust
: the bow height and stern height to align the area centroids. You should
: have a kayak that is close to being balanced. But when a kayak moves
: through the water its center of lateral resistance moves back. So all of
: this lateral area calculation is approximate. So in the end you move the
: heaviest weight (the paddler and seat) to trim the kayak. And if you do a
: test paddle during construction you can move the coaming while moving the
: seat location. Moving the paddler back increases the bow height, lowers
: the stern height, raises the forward keel (increases forward rocker) and
: lowers the aft keel (decreases aft rocker) all reduce weathercocking. It
: also moves the lateral area above the waterline forward, moves the lateral
: area below the waterline back, and moves the center of buoyancy back. All
: this number crunching (engineering) is supposed to reduce the number of
: prototypes necessary to create the final design. In building a touring
: kayak, it probably is quicker to just build the prototypes.

: Have a great year,
: Dave

Biggest reason I've found for designing a boat that weathercocks is if you try to make it wind/current neutral you can end up with leecocking in certain circumstances and that trait can be dangerous.

Bill H.

Messages In This Thread

S&G: Back band to center of buoyancy distance
HenkA -- 12/28/2007, 2:32 pm
Re: S&G: Back band to center of buoyancy distance
Tom Yost -- 12/29/2007, 10:17 am
Weight & Balance
Dave Houser -- 12/31/2007, 12:41 pm
Re: Weight & Balance
HenkA -- 12/31/2007, 8:00 pm
Re: Weight & Balance
Tom Yost -- 12/31/2007, 7:08 pm
Re: Weight & Balance
Dave Houser -- 12/31/2007, 8:43 pm
Re: Weight & Balance
Bill Hamm -- 1/2/2008, 2:11 am
Re: S&G: Back band to center of buoyancy distance
JohnK -- 12/29/2007, 9:02 pm
Re: S&G: Back band to center of buoyancy distance
Tom Yost -- 12/29/2007, 10:05 pm
Re: S&G: Back band to center of buoyancy distance
JohnK -- 12/30/2007, 1:59 am
Re: S&G: Back band to center of buoyancy distance
Bryan Hansel -- 12/28/2007, 10:25 pm
Re: S&G: Back band to center of buoyancy distance
Duane Strosaker -- 12/28/2007, 4:39 pm
Re: S&G: Back band to center of buoyancy distance
Kurt Maurer -- 12/28/2007, 6:42 pm
Re: S&G: Back band to center of buoyancy distance
Duane Strosaker -- 12/28/2007, 11:24 pm
Re: S&G: Back band to center of buoyancy distance
Bryan Hansel -- 12/28/2007, 10:27 pm
Re: S&G: Back band to center of buoyancy distance
Glen Smith -- 12/28/2007, 2:52 pm