: Elliot, you were not here back them so i will recount ...

: I have always been an "over the hill never could have been" bicycle
: racer.

: I rode because a friend led the racer's training rides, 100+ miles 4 times a
: week as fast as we could manage.

: My jobs were sit 30 yards back and help those who fell off and needed help
: back to the pack, and to join the pack and lead the chase if anyone went
: off the front. I did that well. (sounds like a nice guy to me)

: Those who wanted a piece of an "over the hill never could have
: been" were given their chance. None of them were up to it.

See now that makes two things that I can like about you. Truly an unselfish rider. Excellent mileage as well. I certainly hope you still ride as it is very good for the body and soul, As well as extremely humbling.
Do you think we can move on now and talk kayaks. I am getting tired of reading all the negative stuff being posted.
Elliott