Rice paper decal mistake - need advice

Submitted by Brad Grimm on Sat, 07/25/2020 - 14:27

In my zeal to get the hulled glassed I completely forgot to apply the decorative kingfisher decals we had printed on rice paper.  Now I'm wondering if I can epoxy them on and put a few layers of epoxy over them for protection before sanding the hull prior to varnishing.  What do you think?

Alternatively, the print shop that printed the rice paper also printed the design on plastic with an adhesive backing.  So I could wait until after varnishing and stick those on, but I'm concerned they may peel off in the salt water.

Paul Bergman

Sat, 07/25/2020 - 14:59

You could try to epoxy it down and put 2 oz glass over the top and peel ply over it to make as smooth as application as possible.  Have most of the finish sanding complete prior, so that the last finish sanding is minimal.  You will have to add another epoxy layer over the decal area and using peel ply again to keep the surface as uniform as possible so that little finish sanding is needed.  I would do a trial first on scrap with some blank rice paper to see just how much sanding is need to accomplish your desired results. To minimize sanding the edge of the 2 oz, use a cabinet scraper to smooth the edge of the glass prior to the second or third coats of epoxy. The epoxy must be fully curled for this to work well, so be patient  A small hand scrapper will work, but it will tend to cut a little more aggressively than a cabinet scrapper.  I hope this gives you some possible solutions.  I used this method on another kayak several years back. 

I have just epoxied such decals on top of the glass. You will be fine. If you need to smooth them out after applying them use plastic sheeting, roll the decals flat, the plastic will easily be removed after the epoxy cures.

Robert N Pruden

Rob Macks Laug…

Wed, 08/05/2020 - 13:20

I always apply decals and veneers on top of a glassed hull or deck. That way I can fix them if I have problems and I don't have to

think about them while glassing deck or hull.

Apply a layer of glass and wet-out fill coat as you would for deck or hull.

Read all my "Shop Tips" pages and review my free videos on YouTube @

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX4whNL7-18TJRJnghgiIQw/videos?view=0&sort=da&flow=grid

And see my FaceBook page @ https://www.facebook.com/Laughing-Loon-Custom-Canoes-Kayaks-379934105507883/

 

Please let me know how I may be of further assistance. 

Live Long and Paddle,

Rob Macks

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Rob Macks Laug…

Wed, 08/05/2020 - 13:21

I always apply decals and veneers on top of a glassed hull or deck. That way I can fix them if I have problems and I don't have to

think about them while glassing deck or hull.

Apply a layer of glass and wet-out fill coat as you would for deck or hull.

Read all my "Shop Tips" pages and review my free videos on YouTube @

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX4whNL7-18TJRJnghgiIQw/videos?view=0&sort=da&flow=grid

And see my FaceBook page @ https://www.facebook.com/Laughing-Loon-Custom-Canoes-Kayaks-379934105507883/

 

Please let me know how I may be of further assistance. 

Live Long and Paddle,

Rob Macks

Laughing Loon Custom Canoes & Kayaks

http://www.laughingloon.com/

207-549-3531

Rob Macks Laug…

Wed, 08/05/2020 - 13:22

I always apply decals and veneers on top of a glassed hull or deck. That way I can fix them if I have problems and I don't have to

think about them while glassing deck or hull.

Apply a layer of glass and wet-out fill coat as you would for deck or hull.

Read all my "Shop Tips" pages and review my free videos on YouTube @

 

Please let me know how I may be of further assistance. 

Live Long and Paddle,

Rob Macks

Laughing Loon Custom Canoes & Kayaks

http://www.laughingloon.com/

207-549-3531

Rob Macks Laug…

Wed, 08/05/2020 - 13:22

I always apply decals and veneers on top of a glassed hull or deck. That way I can fix them if I have problems and I don't have to

think about them while glassing deck or hull.

Apply a layer of glass and wet-out fill coat as you would for deck or hull.

Read all my "Shop Tips" pages and review my free videos on YouTube @

 

Please let me know how I may be of further assistance. 

Live Long and Paddle,

Rob Macks

Laughing Loon Custom Canoes & Kayaks

207-549-3531