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Re: Quadra Observations II

Posted By: Shawn Baker
Date: Monday, 4 October 1999, at 3:06 p.m.

In Response To: Quadra Observations II (Byron Lawrence)

> Thanks for the interesting and informative commentary from all who
> responded. A couple of additional points of clarification:

Probably a bit more interesting than informative at times!

> (1) Prior to the trip, I did post a question (here) asking if anyone had
> ever heard of or had experiences with the outfitter. Perhaps that fact
> that no one responded should have been a sign.

Or just that nobody had paddled with them--at that point you really did have no way of knowing.

> (2) I did ask about approx. daily paddling length prior to the trip. Their
> reply was that they averaged about five nautical miles per day. (I fully
> realize that weather, etc. can create some changes in
> schedules/distances.)

Yeah, but 10 miles on the FIRST day would probably be a result of poor planning rather than weather.

> (3) The outfitter confirmed that their guides had safety training and
> appropriate safety equipment.

But incomplete safety equipment for guests.

> (4) Prior to posting here, I sent a much more detailed listing of my
> "issues/observations" directly to the owner/guide for Coastal
> Spirits.

Any response?

BTW From my responses to your prior post, I hope you don't think I feel you're in the wrong--I'm averse to lawsuits, but you were treated poorly.

> (5) Next time around, I will be much more assertive regarding safety
> issues, etc. before leaving the beach. There were a couple of times when I
> could/should have spoken up, but didn't want to be viewed as a
> "whiner." In retrospect, uninjured whiner is preferable to
> injured macho-man. :-)

Agreed!

Shawn

> (6) I truly appreciate all those who have responded and their
> constructive/thoughtful comments...we've all learned...that's what makes
> this a wonderful resource to all who choose to participate.

Messages In This Thread

Quadra Observations II
Byron Lawrence -- Monday, 4 October 1999, at 11:14 a.m.
Re: Quadra Observations II
lee -- Monday, 4 October 1999, at 1:11 p.m.
Re: Quadra Observations II
Shawn Baker -- Monday, 4 October 1999, at 3:06 p.m.
Re: Quadra Observations II
Ian Johnston -- Monday, 4 October 1999, at 9:02 p.m.
Re: Quadra Observations II
Pete W. P. -- Wednesday, 6 October 1999, at 9:35 p.m.
Re: Quadra Observations II
Ian Johnston -- Wednesday, 6 October 1999, at 10:49 p.m.
Re: you guys
lee -- Thursday, 7 October 1999, at 9:08 a.m.
Beware the Nether
mike allen -- Thursday, 7 October 1999, at 4:11 p.m.
Re: Quadra Observations II
Ross Leidy -- Thursday, 7 October 1999, at 4:52 p.m.
Re: Quadra Observations II
Wes Boyd -- Thursday, 7 October 1999, at 10:35 p.m.
Sea Monsters...
Pete W. P. -- Thursday, 7 October 1999, at 10:50 a.m.
Re: high anxiety
lee -- Thursday, 7 October 1999, at 3:12 p.m.
Re: anxiety at the interface
lee -- Thursday, 7 October 1999, at 3:24 p.m.
Re: Sea lion at the interface
lee -- Thursday, 7 October 1999, at 3:40 p.m.
Re: Sea lion at the interface
Pete W. P. -- Thursday, 7 October 1999, at 5:03 p.m.
Re: Sea lion at the interface
Shawn Baker -- Thursday, 7 October 1999, at 5:35 p.m.
Re: Sea lion at the interface
Pete W. P. -- Thursday, 7 October 1999, at 9:03 p.m.
Re: Sea lion at the interface
lee -- Thursday, 7 October 1999, at 8:12 p.m.
Re: Sea lion at the interface
Ian Johnston -- Friday, 8 October 1999, at 2:32 a.m.
Re: Sea lion at the interface
RIchard G -- Thursday, 7 October 1999, at 10:08 p.m.
Re: Sea Monsters...
Ian Johnston -- Thursday, 7 October 1999, at 10:20 p.m.
Great White-fake
Pete W. P. -- Friday, 8 October 1999, at 11:13 a.m.
Re: links
lee -- Friday, 8 October 1999, at 11:36 a.m.
Re: Great White-fake
Ian Johnston -- Friday, 8 October 1999, at 9:14 p.m.
Re: Great White-fake
Ian Johnston -- Thursday, 14 October 1999, at 1:24 a.m.
Re: Great White-fake
Pete W. P. -- Thursday, 14 October 1999, at 11:40 a.m.
Re: Great White-fake
lee -- Thursday, 14 October 1999, at 12:49 p.m.
Re: Building Delays
Ian Johnston -- Thursday, 14 October 1999, at 9:18 p.m.
cue the cello music...
Ed Valley -- Friday, 8 October 1999, at 12:24 p.m.
Re: cellos, risk, bird poop
lee -- Friday, 8 October 1999, at 12:56 p.m.
Re: cellos, risk, bird poop
Pete W. P. -- Friday, 8 October 1999, at 3:14 p.m.
Re: risky shadows
lee -- Friday, 8 October 1999, at 4:53 p.m.
Re: risky shadows
Pete W. P. -- Friday, 8 October 1999, at 6:36 p.m.
Re: cue the cello music...
Pete W. P. -- Friday, 8 October 1999, at 3:04 p.m.

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