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Re: snip everyone, I say!

Posted By: Shawn Baker
Date: Thursday, 6 September 2001, at 11:00 a.m.

In Response To: Re: snip-snip, end of discussion (Don Beale)

: I know exactly how you feel, Shawn. I only have one kid for the same reasons.
: The ex wasnt too happy about it when I got snipped, but in retrospect it's
: one of the smarter things I've done in life.

It's not unfair to anyone, except you, and then only momentarily. You've ensured that you have more resources...time, money, attention, love...to allocate to Jeff, and it isn't unfair to a child who's never been conceived.

: OT, I think we oughta force welfare recipients to use birth control, but
: thats another discussion.

Forcing anyone to do anything will never work. I'm all for population control, but I'm morally against the way China does it. "Force", of course is a relative term, but we can certainly make adding additional children unpleasant at best. If a couple is on welfare, they receive zip-zilch-nada for additional kids. Simple.

If someone with a wife and 5 kids is already holding a job, and loses said job, then I think that we as a culture should give them assistance to get back on their feet. However, we should not make it desirable for them to remain on welfare, and we should make it extremely undesirable for them to even consider procreating #6.

The government could, however, also offer tax cuts to men who get "snipped" before they have 2 kids....

I can see college guys lined up around the block to get snipped for beer money! New pickup line: "Hey baby, I just got my Snippage Check, and I'm shooting blanks. Can I buy you a beer?"

Anyway, telling someone what they can't do will never work...letting them do whatever they want, but giving them benefits for doing what you want them to do might.

Shawn

Messages In This Thread

Sea Kayaking in the Florida Keys
Peggy Goddard -- Monday, 13 August 2001, at 1:45 p.m.

Why would it get ruined? *NM*
Dale Frolander -- Monday, 13 August 2001, at 2:08 p.m.

Maybe the anchors from a 30 ft. raft? *NM*
Ed K. -- Monday, 13 August 2001, at 2:22 p.m.

Re: Why would it get ruined?
Peggy Goddard -- Tuesday, 14 August 2001, at 12:14 p.m.

We have met the enemy and it is us.
Shawn Baker -- Tuesday, 14 August 2001, at 12:40 p.m.

Not global warming again.
Dale Frolander -- Thursday, 16 August 2001, at 5:47 p.m.

Re: Not global warming? THANKS "W"
Peggy Goddard -- Thursday, 16 August 2001, at 6:36 p.m.

Re: Not global warming? THANKS "W"
Dale Frolander -- Friday, 17 August 2001, at 1:34 a.m.

NO MORE POLITICS *NM*
Mike Scarborough -- Friday, 17 August 2001, at 9:14 a.m.

Re: Not global warming? THANKS "W"
Shawn Baker -- Monday, 20 August 2001, at 1:56 p.m.

Re: Not global warming again. OT
Rob Forsell -- Friday, 17 August 2001, at 8:08 a.m.

Re: Not global warming again. OT
LeeG -- Friday, 17 August 2001, at 9:27 a.m.

Re: Not global warming again. OT
Charles Cooper -- Friday, 17 August 2001, at 4:04 p.m.

Not paranoid, just tired of GW's misuse.
Dale Frolander -- Tuesday, 21 August 2001, at 1:01 a.m.

Re: Not paranoid, just tired of GW's misuse.
LeeG -- Tuesday, 21 August 2001, at 9:00 a.m.

Re: Not paranoid, just tired of GW's misuse.
Tim Mattson -- Wednesday, 22 August 2001, at 2:19 a.m.

Re: Not paranoid, just tired of GW's misuse.
Ian Johnston -- Sunday, 2 September 2001, at 3:00 a.m.

Re: Not paranoid, just tired of GW's misuse.
Dale Frolander -- Tuesday, 4 September 2001, at 4:17 p.m.

Re: Not paranoid, just tired of GW's misuse.
Ian Johnston -- Tuesday, 4 September 2001, at 9:43 p.m.

Re: Not paranoid, just tired of GW's misuse.
Dale Frolander -- Wednesday, 5 September 2001, at 3:46 a.m.

Re: Government doesn't work for the people anymore
Shawn Baker -- Wednesday, 5 September 2001, at 10:59 a.m.

C'mon, tell what you really think
Ted Henry -- Wednesday, 5 September 2001, at 3:55 p.m.

Re: There's no conceivable way it will work
Shawn Baker -- Wednesday, 5 September 2001, at 6:17 p.m.

Re: snip-snip, end of discussion
Don Beale -- Wednesday, 5 September 2001, at 7:46 p.m.

Re: snip everyone, I say!
Shawn Baker -- Thursday, 6 September 2001, at 11:00 a.m.

Re: snip everyone, I say!
Don Beale -- Thursday, 6 September 2001, at 11:24 a.m.

Re: snip-snip, end of discussion
Ken Sutherland -- Thursday, 6 September 2001, at 2:04 p.m.

Re: How Bad it hurts
Shawn Baker -- Thursday, 6 September 2001, at 4:48 p.m.

Sorry OT
Ken Sutherland -- Thursday, 6 September 2001, at 7:09 p.m.

Re: C'mon, tell what you really think
Ian Johnston -- Saturday, 15 September 2001, at 9:26 p.m.

Great stuff! Shawn Baker in 2004!!! *NM*
Dale Frolander -- Wednesday, 5 September 2001, at 9:55 p.m.

I agree with your thinking Shawn.
John Monfoe -- Thursday, 6 September 2001, at 8:25 a.m.

Re: I heard it put eloquently once...
Don Beale -- Thursday, 6 September 2001, at 11:28 a.m.

Re: Not paranoid, just tired of GW's misuse.
Ian Johnston -- Sunday, 2 September 2001, at 3:20 a.m.

Re: Not paranoid, just tired of GW's misuse.
Ian Johnston -- Sunday, 2 September 2001, at 3:34 a.m.

Re: Not global warming again.
Tim Mattson -- Friday, 17 August 2001, at 7:05 p.m.

Re: Human vs. natural warming
Shawn Baker -- Monday, 20 August 2001, at 2:02 p.m.

sniff sniff... Smells like SPAM to me *NM*
tony B -- Monday, 13 August 2001, at 4:37 p.m.

Re: sniff sniff... Smells like SPAM to me
Peggy Goddard -- Tuesday, 14 August 2001, at 12:23 p.m.

Re: whether SPAM?
Shawn Baker -- Tuesday, 14 August 2001, at 12:45 p.m.

Re: whether SPAM?
Peggy Goddard -- Tuesday, 14 August 2001, at 6:25 p.m.

Re: Kayaking the Keys
Shawn Baker -- Tuesday, 14 August 2001, at 7:53 p.m.

Re: whether SPAM?
LeeG -- Tuesday, 14 August 2001, at 7:58 p.m.

Inexpensive paddle
Ed K. -- Wednesday, 15 August 2001, at 12:30 p.m.

Re: But not a cheap paddle
Shawn Baker -- Wednesday, 15 August 2001, at 10:05 p.m.

Re: whether SPAM?
Mike Boren -- Wednesday, 15 August 2001, at 1:54 p.m.

Re: Peggy, tell more
LeeG -- Tuesday, 14 August 2001, at 3:58 p.m.

Re: sniff sniff...
Mike Scarborough -- Tuesday, 14 August 2001, at 6:09 p.m.

Re: sniff sniff...
Peggy Goddard -- Tuesday, 14 August 2001, at 6:36 p.m.

Not SPAM after all
tony B -- Monday, 20 August 2001, at 2:52 p.m.

Re: yeah, it looks like advertising BUT
LeeG -- Monday, 13 August 2001, at 9:53 p.m.

Re: Sea Kayaking in the Florida Keys
Pete -- Saturday, 15 September 2001, at 8:30 a.m.

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