Sea Kayaks Techniques Bulletin Board

Re: Keep practicing

Posted By: Shawn Baker
Date: Wednesday, 20 June 2001, at 7:17 p.m.

In Response To: Rolling Disorientation (Ben Staley)

As Craig said, you get a better feel for your body orientation after awhile. Just keep rolling, practicing. Never capsize in the setup position. Always capsize in some new and unfamiliar manner.

Experiment with various kinds of rolls--don't get locked into a "set" style. Blur the distinction between a screw roll and a C-to-C roll. Reverse sweep if your forward sweep roll doesn't quite get you there.

Plan to come up on a particular side after you're inverted, and scull your way up. You'll feel your body break the surface--it may take 2 sculls, it may take 10.

I don't wear goggles or a mask much anymore, but I did wear a mask alot when I was learning new rolls. Wear the mask and concentrate on good form and hipsnaps. When your muscle memory is developed so that rolls are effortless, take off the mask, and get back to the disorientation factor. Don't start the fight against disorientation before your rolls are burned into muscle memory or you might start some bad habits.

Shawn

Messages In This Thread

Rolling Disorientation
Ben Staley -- Wednesday, 20 June 2001, at 3:45 p.m.

Re: Rolling Disorientation
Craig MacKinnon -- Wednesday, 20 June 2001, at 4:25 p.m.

Re: Rolling Disorientation
Ben Staley -- Wednesday, 20 June 2001, at 5:21 p.m.

Re: Rolling Disorientation
Tim Mattson -- Wednesday, 20 June 2001, at 5:58 p.m.

Re: Rolling Disorientation
Tim -- Wednesday, 20 June 2001, at 8:45 p.m.

Re: Rolling Disorientation
FBC -- Friday, 22 June 2001, at 12:31 a.m.

finishing the roll
risto -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 5:10 a.m.

Re: Rolling Nomenclature
Tim -- Wednesday, 20 June 2001, at 8:48 p.m.

Re: Rolling Nomenclature
Tim Mattson -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 2:10 a.m.

more confusion . . .
Jed -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 7:31 a.m.

and other thing!
Jed -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 7:39 a.m.

Re: Rolling Nomenclature
Tim -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 3:06 p.m.

Re: Keep practicing
Shawn Baker -- Wednesday, 20 June 2001, at 7:17 p.m.

kayak breathing tube for roll practice and rescue
jerry -- Friday, 9 June 2006, at 2:12 p.m.

The problem is...
Brian Nystrom -- Saturday, 10 June 2006, at 12:20 p.m.

Re: The problem is...
jerry -- Saturday, 10 June 2006, at 12:33 p.m.

Re: The problem is...
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 15 June 2006, at 7:42 a.m.

Re: The problem is...
Kent LeBoutillier -- Thursday, 15 June 2006, at 11:49 a.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res *Pic*
John Monroe -- Sunday, 11 June 2006, at 5:33 a.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res
Dave Isbell -- Sunday, 11 June 2006, at 10:42 a.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res *Pic*
John Monroe -- Monday, 12 June 2006, at 6:05 a.m.

outfitting
Greg Stamer -- Monday, 12 June 2006, at 10:24 p.m.

Re: outfitting
John Monroe -- Tuesday, 13 June 2006, at 5:54 a.m.

Re: outfitting
John Monroe -- Wednesday, 14 June 2006, at 3:51 a.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res
jerry -- Sunday, 11 June 2006, at 12:46 p.m.

breathing tube possibilities
mike allen -- Monday, 12 June 2006, at 12:39 a.m.

Re: breathing tube possibilities
frankP -- Friday, 16 June 2006, at 2:14 p.m.

Re: breathing tube possibilities
mike allen -- Friday, 16 June 2006, at 3:01 p.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res
Kris Buttermore -- Monday, 12 June 2006, at 11:44 a.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res
jerry -- Monday, 12 June 2006, at 1:18 p.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res *Pic*
John Monroe -- Tuesday, 13 June 2006, at 5:47 a.m.

Your scaring me John
Reg Lake -- Tuesday, 13 June 2006, at 12:07 p.m.

Re: Your scaring me John
John Monroe -- Wednesday, 14 June 2006, at 4:50 a.m.

More scariness
Kris Buttermore -- Wednesday, 14 June 2006, at 12:06 p.m.

Understanding the roll
Reg Lake -- Wednesday, 14 June 2006, at 12:51 p.m.

Re: Understanding the roll *Pic*
John Monroe -- Thursday, 15 June 2006, at 5:30 a.m.

Re: Your scaring me John
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 15 June 2006, at 8:20 a.m.

Re: Your scaring me John
John Monroe -- Friday, 16 June 2006, at 7:05 a.m.

Re: Your scaring me John *LINK*
Mike Savage -- Friday, 16 June 2006, at 3:08 p.m.

Re: Your scaring me John
John Monroe -- Saturday, 17 June 2006, at 5:52 a.m.

Re: Your scaring me John
Mike Savage -- Saturday, 17 June 2006, at 6:55 a.m.

Re: Your scaring me John
Brian Nystrom -- Tuesday, 20 June 2006, at 5:49 p.m.

Re: Your scaring me John
Brian Nystrom -- Tuesday, 20 June 2006, at 5:47 p.m.

Slot caves, skegs, rescues, and big fish *LINK*
John Monroe -- Wednesday, 21 June 2006, at 4:46 a.m.

Re: Slot caves, skegs, rescues, and big fish
Brian Nystrom -- Wednesday, 21 June 2006, at 8:48 a.m.

Re: Slot caves, skegs, rescues, and big fish
Kent LeBoutillier -- Wednesday, 21 June 2006, at 11:58 a.m.

Re: Slot caves, skegs, rescues, and big fish
John Monroe -- Thursday, 22 June 2006, at 8:19 a.m.

Re: Slot caves, skegs, rescues, and big fish
Brian Nystrom -- Friday, 23 June 2006, at 7:30 a.m.

Re: Slot caves, skegs, rescues, and big fish
Kris Buttermore -- Tuesday, 27 June 2006, at 11:34 a.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res
jerry -- Tuesday, 13 June 2006, at 1:12 p.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res
frankP -- Friday, 16 June 2006, at 3:12 p.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res
jerry -- Friday, 16 June 2006, at 4:13 p.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res
jerry -- Tuesday, 13 June 2006, at 4:37 p.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res
Kris Buttermore -- Tuesday, 13 June 2006, at 10:16 a.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res
Steve Ryan -- Friday, 16 June 2006, at 4:08 p.m.

See Rapid Air *NM* *LINK*
Mick -- Friday, 16 June 2006, at 9:59 p.m.

Re: See Rapid Air
John Monroe -- Saturday, 17 June 2006, at 5:59 a.m.

Rolling Disorientation constructs
mike allen ---> -- Wednesday, 20 June 2001, at 9:01 p.m.

Re: In the basement/rope practice cross-training
Shawn Baker -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 12:46 p.m.

Re: In the basement/rope practice cross-training
Greg Stamer -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 2:11 p.m.

I've got to try this subbing trees for poles... *NM*
Craig MacKinnon -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 2:25 p.m.

The Pinball Wizard
Brianne Corbett -- Wednesday, 20 June 2001, at 9:41 p.m.

Re: Be careful about tubing dimensions!!
WesT -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 10:06 a.m.

Re: Be careful about tubing dimensions!!
Thomas -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 11:25 a.m.

Re: Breathe in, breathe out, Daniel-san
Shawn Baker -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 12:40 p.m.

Re: Breathe in, breathe out, Daniel-san
Brianne Corbett -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 7:13 p.m.

Re: Be careful about tubing dimensions!!
Brianne Corbett -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 6:40 p.m.

Lung Volumn is Irrelevant!!
Thomas -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 9:57 p.m.

Breathing through a tube
Brianne Corbett -- Friday, 22 June 2001, at 11:25 a.m.

Re: Breathing through a tube
Thomas -- Friday, 22 June 2001, at 11:58 a.m.

Re: Breathing through a tube
Brianne Corbett -- Friday, 22 June 2001, at 7:34 p.m.

Stop arguing and get in the kayak now! *NM*
Doesn't matter -- Saturday, 23 June 2001, at 12:10 a.m.

Can I get an amen brothers and sisters! *NM*
Craig MacKinnon -- Saturday, 23 June 2001, at 9:09 a.m.

Re: Not an instructor, my foot!! Thanks Brianne! *NM*
Shawn Baker -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 12:37 p.m.

Re: Thanks All
Ben Staley -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 10:38 a.m.

Roll Aide
Carl Tjerandsen -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 11:51 a.m.

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