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Re: Here's the coast guard press release

Posted By: Michael Shugg
Date: Tuesday, 13 June 2006, at 8:13 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Here's the coast guard press release *Pic* (John Monroe)

"Canoe’s are very dangerous when flooded.". . . . I took my 17 ft. aluminum
canoe with floatation in each end about 100 ft. offshore in calm water and
flooded it, then tried to get back in. It was impossible to do." . . . I realized then that my canoe was a death trap."

John, I'm certain that you believe that your test is 100% scientific. I can assure you however that it is more than possible to empty a flooded canoe in deep water and reboard, solo and without assistance. I've done it.

Now I'm not trying to say that canoes are aceptable rough water craft. I performed the above on flat water for which canoes are designed. The point is, as Brian said :Skill trumps gear."

There are rescue skills for canoes just as there are rescue skills for kayaks, but the most important skill is the judgement to stay within your and your group's limits.

Michael

Messages In This Thread

Another tragedy of poor preparation?
Gary -- Monday, 28 February 2005, at 3:22 p.m.

Inexcusable...and with a motorized boat available?
Robert N Pruden -- Monday, 28 February 2005, at 4:10 p.m.

what were the circumstances?
rick stoehrer -- Monday, 28 February 2005, at 10:14 p.m.

Re: what were the circumstances?
Jay Doorly -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 12:18 a.m.

Re: Another tragedy of poor preparation?
Davis -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 2:48 a.m.

Re: Another tragedy of poor preparation?
Mike Scarborough -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 8:02 a.m.

rush to judgement?
rick stoehrer -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 11:24 a.m.

Re: rush to judgement?
shawn baker -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 5:03 p.m.

Re: rush to judgement?
Rehd -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 9:18 a.m.

I admit it, Yes.
Matt Brammer -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 8:24 p.m.

Yes and no
Brian Nystrom -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 7:43 a.m.

Re: Another tragedy of poor preparation?
William N -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 12:08 p.m.

Re: Another tragedy of poor preparation?
Kris Buttermore -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 11:17 a.m.

Poor Preparation and Negligence
Matt Brammer -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 2:01 p.m.

Re: Poor Preparation and Negligence
Ong Yong Hui -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 1:32 a.m.

Re: Poor Preparation and Negligence
Don Flowers -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 3:42 p.m.

Re: Poor Preparation and Negligence *LINK*
Karen Rutherford -- Thursday, 21 August 2008, at 3:42 p.m.

Message to the more inexperienced paddlers here
Robert N Pruden -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 10:45 p.m.

There is NO excuse...
Brian Nystrom -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 7:54 a.m.

Nature bats last... *NM*
M. Hamilton -- Saturday, 5 March 2005, at 10:59 p.m.

Here's the coast guard press release *LINK*
John D. -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 1:51 p.m.

Re: Here's the coast guard press release
Alex M -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 2:33 a.m.

Another Lemon
Davis -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 3:44 a.m.

Re: Another Lemon
Robert N Pruden -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 5:47 a.m.

Re: Another Lemon
Davis -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 10:39 p.m.

Well done, Davis.
Robert N Pruden -- Thursday, 3 March 2005, at 3:18 a.m.

Re: Well done, Davis.
Davis -- Thursday, 3 March 2005, at 3:42 a.m.

Re: Well done, Davis.
Robert N Pruden -- Thursday, 3 March 2005, at 4:28 a.m.

Following up
Pamela -- Friday, 4 March 2005, at 8:09 a.m.

Re: Here's the coast guard press release *Pic*
John Monroe -- Thursday, 3 March 2005, at 5:16 a.m.

Re: Here's the coast guard press release
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 3 March 2005, at 6:57 a.m.

Re: Here's the coast guard press release
John Monroe -- Friday, 4 March 2005, at 3:22 a.m.

You simply don't understand the dangers, John
Brian Nystrom -- Friday, 4 March 2005, at 8:35 a.m.

Re: You simply don't understand the dangers, John
John Monroe -- Saturday, 5 March 2005, at 4:16 a.m.

Re: You simply don't understand the dangers, John
Brian Nystrom -- Saturday, 5 March 2005, at 8:15 a.m.

Bulkheads
Robert N Pruden -- Thursday, 3 March 2005, at 9:28 p.m.

Re: Bulkheads *Pic*
John Monroe -- Friday, 4 March 2005, at 3:56 a.m.

Re: Bulkheads
shawn baker -- Friday, 4 March 2005, at 10:20 a.m.

Re: Bulkheads
Matt Brammer -- Friday, 4 March 2005, at 1:13 p.m.

Re: Here's the coast guard press release
Michael Shugg -- Tuesday, 13 June 2006, at 8:13 p.m.

Re: Here's the coast guard press release
Ian -- Sunday, 6 March 2005, at 4:47 a.m.

Re: Here's the coast guard press release
Brian Nystrom -- Monday, 7 March 2005, at 6:54 a.m.

Re: Here's the coast guard press release
Ian -- Tuesday, 8 March 2005, at 3:55 a.m.

Re: Here's the coast guard press release
FrankP -- Tuesday, 8 March 2005, at 10:50 a.m.

Bad weather comes with clouds attached to it ...
Pamela -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 7:05 a.m.

Re: Bad weather comes with clouds attached to it .
Robert N Pruden -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 7:26 a.m.

Re: Bad weather comes with clouds attached to it .
PatrickC -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 10:25 a.m.

Gulf Information...
Robert N Pruden -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 9:42 p.m.

Re: Gulf Information...
PatrickC -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 11:09 p.m.

Re: Gulf Information...
Robert N Pruden -- Thursday, 3 March 2005, at 3:38 a.m.

Re: Gulf Information...
FrankP -- Monday, 7 March 2005, at 7:45 a.m.

Re: Gulf Information...
Robert N Pruden -- Monday, 7 March 2005, at 9:52 a.m.

Re: Gulf Information...
FrankP -- Monday, 7 March 2005, at 4:19 p.m.

Coaching Fastpitch Ball
Robert N Pruden -- Monday, 7 March 2005, at 5:45 p.m.

Re: Bad weather comes with clouds attached to it .
Karl -- Thursday, 3 March 2005, at 12:28 p.m.

Some more info *LINK*
Matt Brammer -- Sunday, 6 March 2005, at 1:10 a.m.

Stop being so critical! *NM*
Michelle -- Tuesday, 6 June 2006, at 1:17 p.m.

Re: Stop being so critical!
Michelle -- Tuesday, 6 June 2006, at 1:35 p.m.

You're a bit late to the party, Michelle
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 8 June 2006, at 1:46 a.m.

Re: Stop being so critical!
rick -- Friday, 9 June 2006, at 1:38 p.m.

Re: Stop being so critical!
frankP -- Friday, 16 June 2006, at 3:23 p.m.

Re: Another tragedy of poor preparation?
Karen Rutherford -- Thursday, 21 August 2008, at 3:51 p.m.

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