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Your scaring me John

Posted By: Reg Lake
Date: Tuesday, 13 June 2006, at 12:07 p.m.

In Response To: Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res *Pic* (John Monroe)

: Kris & Jerry,

: I have been around water all my life and I am the last person to panic
: usually but here are my concerns. My spray skirt is very tight. So tight
: that I weight trained during the winter to have enough strength to get the
: spray skirt on and off, and I left it on the kayak for a couple of months
: hoping to loosen it up some. I can tell by my videos that others put their
: spray shirts on with much less effort then I do. The other concern is the
: watertight compartment between my legs and the tightness of the kayak deck
: on my feet so it’s all pretty cramped. I’m not so worried about this last
: one. Once I prove to myself I can get the spray skirt off at the last
: minute of breath I will be OK. Yesterday I bought my goggles and snorkel
: and fitted it with a tube. Picture. The tube is very curled and I may try
: to heat and straighten it some. And it seems it would work better if I
: could put a somewhat sharp bend by the mouthpiece to make it fit better in
: my mouth. Does this retrofit look right? The pieces left over aren't used,
: right?
: John

Please excuse the bluntness.
First thing to do is forget about that fart rebreather thing, it is a major distraction to rolling. Then change out your sprayskirt to one that seals well but can be released easily. A good seal is one that allows you to push the skirt to the bottom of your kayak without it pulling off. You should also be able to remove it easily, think worst case scenerio, like a shoulder dislocation, which is not uncommon in kayaking. You should be able to get that skirt off with one hand. Practice wet exits before starting on the rolling. Good form in wet exits is to tuck forward, pull the grab loop toward the bow and upward, then with both thumbs in the cockpit slide your hands back past your hips to free the skirt and then push the kayak straight off of you like a stiff pair of pants. You should be able to quietly slip out with very little movement of the kayak. If the box is in the way of smooth exits then it may need to be modified.

Again my apologies for the bluntness, but this serious stuff.

Reg

Messages In This Thread

Rolling Disorientation
Ben Staley -- Wednesday, 20 June 2001, at 3:45 p.m.

Re: Rolling Disorientation
Craig MacKinnon -- Wednesday, 20 June 2001, at 4:25 p.m.

Re: Rolling Disorientation
Ben Staley -- Wednesday, 20 June 2001, at 5:21 p.m.

Re: Rolling Disorientation
Tim Mattson -- Wednesday, 20 June 2001, at 5:58 p.m.

Re: Rolling Disorientation
Tim -- Wednesday, 20 June 2001, at 8:45 p.m.

Re: Rolling Disorientation
FBC -- Friday, 22 June 2001, at 12:31 a.m.

finishing the roll
risto -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 5:10 a.m.

Re: Rolling Nomenclature
Tim -- Wednesday, 20 June 2001, at 8:48 p.m.

Re: Rolling Nomenclature
Tim Mattson -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 2:10 a.m.

more confusion . . .
Jed -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 7:31 a.m.

and other thing!
Jed -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 7:39 a.m.

Re: Rolling Nomenclature
Tim -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 3:06 p.m.

Re: Keep practicing
Shawn Baker -- Wednesday, 20 June 2001, at 7:17 p.m.

kayak breathing tube for roll practice and rescue
jerry -- Friday, 9 June 2006, at 2:12 p.m.

The problem is...
Brian Nystrom -- Saturday, 10 June 2006, at 12:20 p.m.

Re: The problem is...
jerry -- Saturday, 10 June 2006, at 12:33 p.m.

Re: The problem is...
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 15 June 2006, at 7:42 a.m.

Re: The problem is...
Kent LeBoutillier -- Thursday, 15 June 2006, at 11:49 a.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res *Pic*
John Monroe -- Sunday, 11 June 2006, at 5:33 a.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res
Dave Isbell -- Sunday, 11 June 2006, at 10:42 a.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res *Pic*
John Monroe -- Monday, 12 June 2006, at 6:05 a.m.

outfitting
Greg Stamer -- Monday, 12 June 2006, at 10:24 p.m.

Re: outfitting
John Monroe -- Tuesday, 13 June 2006, at 5:54 a.m.

Re: outfitting
John Monroe -- Wednesday, 14 June 2006, at 3:51 a.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res
jerry -- Sunday, 11 June 2006, at 12:46 p.m.

breathing tube possibilities
mike allen -- Monday, 12 June 2006, at 12:39 a.m.

Re: breathing tube possibilities
frankP -- Friday, 16 June 2006, at 2:14 p.m.

Re: breathing tube possibilities
mike allen -- Friday, 16 June 2006, at 3:01 p.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res
Kris Buttermore -- Monday, 12 June 2006, at 11:44 a.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res
jerry -- Monday, 12 June 2006, at 1:18 p.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res *Pic*
John Monroe -- Tuesday, 13 June 2006, at 5:47 a.m.

Your scaring me John
Reg Lake -- Tuesday, 13 June 2006, at 12:07 p.m.

Re: Your scaring me John
John Monroe -- Wednesday, 14 June 2006, at 4:50 a.m.

More scariness
Kris Buttermore -- Wednesday, 14 June 2006, at 12:06 p.m.

Understanding the roll
Reg Lake -- Wednesday, 14 June 2006, at 12:51 p.m.

Re: Understanding the roll *Pic*
John Monroe -- Thursday, 15 June 2006, at 5:30 a.m.

Re: Your scaring me John
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 15 June 2006, at 8:20 a.m.

Re: Your scaring me John
John Monroe -- Friday, 16 June 2006, at 7:05 a.m.

Re: Your scaring me John *LINK*
Mike Savage -- Friday, 16 June 2006, at 3:08 p.m.

Re: Your scaring me John
John Monroe -- Saturday, 17 June 2006, at 5:52 a.m.

Re: Your scaring me John
Mike Savage -- Saturday, 17 June 2006, at 6:55 a.m.

Re: Your scaring me John
Brian Nystrom -- Tuesday, 20 June 2006, at 5:49 p.m.

Re: Your scaring me John
Brian Nystrom -- Tuesday, 20 June 2006, at 5:47 p.m.

Slot caves, skegs, rescues, and big fish *LINK*
John Monroe -- Wednesday, 21 June 2006, at 4:46 a.m.

Re: Slot caves, skegs, rescues, and big fish
Brian Nystrom -- Wednesday, 21 June 2006, at 8:48 a.m.

Re: Slot caves, skegs, rescues, and big fish
Kent LeBoutillier -- Wednesday, 21 June 2006, at 11:58 a.m.

Re: Slot caves, skegs, rescues, and big fish
John Monroe -- Thursday, 22 June 2006, at 8:19 a.m.

Re: Slot caves, skegs, rescues, and big fish
Brian Nystrom -- Friday, 23 June 2006, at 7:30 a.m.

Re: Slot caves, skegs, rescues, and big fish
Kris Buttermore -- Tuesday, 27 June 2006, at 11:34 a.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res
jerry -- Tuesday, 13 June 2006, at 1:12 p.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res
frankP -- Friday, 16 June 2006, at 3:12 p.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res
jerry -- Friday, 16 June 2006, at 4:13 p.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res
jerry -- Tuesday, 13 June 2006, at 4:37 p.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res
Kris Buttermore -- Tuesday, 13 June 2006, at 10:16 a.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res
Steve Ryan -- Friday, 16 June 2006, at 4:08 p.m.

See Rapid Air *NM* *LINK*
Mick -- Friday, 16 June 2006, at 9:59 p.m.

Re: See Rapid Air
John Monroe -- Saturday, 17 June 2006, at 5:59 a.m.

Rolling Disorientation constructs
mike allen ---> -- Wednesday, 20 June 2001, at 9:01 p.m.

Re: In the basement/rope practice cross-training
Shawn Baker -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 12:46 p.m.

Re: In the basement/rope practice cross-training
Greg Stamer -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 2:11 p.m.

I've got to try this subbing trees for poles... *NM*
Craig MacKinnon -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 2:25 p.m.

The Pinball Wizard
Brianne Corbett -- Wednesday, 20 June 2001, at 9:41 p.m.

Re: Be careful about tubing dimensions!!
WesT -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 10:06 a.m.

Re: Be careful about tubing dimensions!!
Thomas -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 11:25 a.m.

Re: Breathe in, breathe out, Daniel-san
Shawn Baker -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 12:40 p.m.

Re: Breathe in, breathe out, Daniel-san
Brianne Corbett -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 7:13 p.m.

Re: Be careful about tubing dimensions!!
Brianne Corbett -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 6:40 p.m.

Lung Volumn is Irrelevant!!
Thomas -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 9:57 p.m.

Breathing through a tube
Brianne Corbett -- Friday, 22 June 2001, at 11:25 a.m.

Re: Breathing through a tube
Thomas -- Friday, 22 June 2001, at 11:58 a.m.

Re: Breathing through a tube
Brianne Corbett -- Friday, 22 June 2001, at 7:34 p.m.

Stop arguing and get in the kayak now! *NM*
Doesn't matter -- Saturday, 23 June 2001, at 12:10 a.m.

Can I get an amen brothers and sisters! *NM*
Craig MacKinnon -- Saturday, 23 June 2001, at 9:09 a.m.

Re: Not an instructor, my foot!! Thanks Brianne! *NM*
Shawn Baker -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 12:37 p.m.

Re: Thanks All
Ben Staley -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 10:38 a.m.

Roll Aide
Carl Tjerandsen -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 11:51 a.m.

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