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Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res

Posted By: Kris Buttermore
Date: Tuesday, 13 June 2006, at 10:16 a.m.

In Response To: Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res (jerry)

: 4. i am going to take mine to a beginner pool roll session and see how people
: respond. i will post the results later. until then...
: ----------------------------------

Just don't drown anyone screwing around like this. It only takes a tiny amount of water - an amount easily picked up by tubes like this - from either end. How's your CPR? Your insurance?

I know you think you are helping people with this, but you are putting others at risk - and delaying their rolling progress with this diversion. Keeping things safe and simple is what gets people rolling sooner.

I understand it works for you. I could make it work too. That's irrelevant.

Rather than teaching people to use these tubes in their kayaks - why not just help them learn to roll? I can roll up a lot faster and more reliably than I can get get the tube in and be sure it's cleared before inhaling. A spotter is a 1000x safer and more effective learning aid (they need not be able to roll - but that helps too).

Messages In This Thread

Rolling Disorientation
Ben Staley -- Wednesday, 20 June 2001, at 3:45 p.m.

Re: Rolling Disorientation
Craig MacKinnon -- Wednesday, 20 June 2001, at 4:25 p.m.

Re: Rolling Disorientation
Ben Staley -- Wednesday, 20 June 2001, at 5:21 p.m.

Re: Rolling Disorientation
Tim Mattson -- Wednesday, 20 June 2001, at 5:58 p.m.

Re: Rolling Disorientation
Tim -- Wednesday, 20 June 2001, at 8:45 p.m.

Re: Rolling Disorientation
FBC -- Friday, 22 June 2001, at 12:31 a.m.

finishing the roll
risto -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 5:10 a.m.

Re: Rolling Nomenclature
Tim -- Wednesday, 20 June 2001, at 8:48 p.m.

Re: Rolling Nomenclature
Tim Mattson -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 2:10 a.m.

more confusion . . .
Jed -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 7:31 a.m.

and other thing!
Jed -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 7:39 a.m.

Re: Rolling Nomenclature
Tim -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 3:06 p.m.

Re: Keep practicing
Shawn Baker -- Wednesday, 20 June 2001, at 7:17 p.m.

kayak breathing tube for roll practice and rescue
jerry -- Friday, 9 June 2006, at 2:12 p.m.

The problem is...
Brian Nystrom -- Saturday, 10 June 2006, at 12:20 p.m.

Re: The problem is...
jerry -- Saturday, 10 June 2006, at 12:33 p.m.

Re: The problem is...
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 15 June 2006, at 7:42 a.m.

Re: The problem is...
Kent LeBoutillier -- Thursday, 15 June 2006, at 11:49 a.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res *Pic*
John Monroe -- Sunday, 11 June 2006, at 5:33 a.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res
Dave Isbell -- Sunday, 11 June 2006, at 10:42 a.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res *Pic*
John Monroe -- Monday, 12 June 2006, at 6:05 a.m.

outfitting
Greg Stamer -- Monday, 12 June 2006, at 10:24 p.m.

Re: outfitting
John Monroe -- Tuesday, 13 June 2006, at 5:54 a.m.

Re: outfitting
John Monroe -- Wednesday, 14 June 2006, at 3:51 a.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res
jerry -- Sunday, 11 June 2006, at 12:46 p.m.

breathing tube possibilities
mike allen -- Monday, 12 June 2006, at 12:39 a.m.

Re: breathing tube possibilities
frankP -- Friday, 16 June 2006, at 2:14 p.m.

Re: breathing tube possibilities
mike allen -- Friday, 16 June 2006, at 3:01 p.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res
Kris Buttermore -- Monday, 12 June 2006, at 11:44 a.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res
jerry -- Monday, 12 June 2006, at 1:18 p.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res *Pic*
John Monroe -- Tuesday, 13 June 2006, at 5:47 a.m.

Your scaring me John
Reg Lake -- Tuesday, 13 June 2006, at 12:07 p.m.

Re: Your scaring me John
John Monroe -- Wednesday, 14 June 2006, at 4:50 a.m.

More scariness
Kris Buttermore -- Wednesday, 14 June 2006, at 12:06 p.m.

Understanding the roll
Reg Lake -- Wednesday, 14 June 2006, at 12:51 p.m.

Re: Understanding the roll *Pic*
John Monroe -- Thursday, 15 June 2006, at 5:30 a.m.

Re: Your scaring me John
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 15 June 2006, at 8:20 a.m.

Re: Your scaring me John
John Monroe -- Friday, 16 June 2006, at 7:05 a.m.

Re: Your scaring me John *LINK*
Mike Savage -- Friday, 16 June 2006, at 3:08 p.m.

Re: Your scaring me John
John Monroe -- Saturday, 17 June 2006, at 5:52 a.m.

Re: Your scaring me John
Mike Savage -- Saturday, 17 June 2006, at 6:55 a.m.

Re: Your scaring me John
Brian Nystrom -- Tuesday, 20 June 2006, at 5:49 p.m.

Re: Your scaring me John
Brian Nystrom -- Tuesday, 20 June 2006, at 5:47 p.m.

Slot caves, skegs, rescues, and big fish *LINK*
John Monroe -- Wednesday, 21 June 2006, at 4:46 a.m.

Re: Slot caves, skegs, rescues, and big fish
Brian Nystrom -- Wednesday, 21 June 2006, at 8:48 a.m.

Re: Slot caves, skegs, rescues, and big fish
Kent LeBoutillier -- Wednesday, 21 June 2006, at 11:58 a.m.

Re: Slot caves, skegs, rescues, and big fish
John Monroe -- Thursday, 22 June 2006, at 8:19 a.m.

Re: Slot caves, skegs, rescues, and big fish
Brian Nystrom -- Friday, 23 June 2006, at 7:30 a.m.

Re: Slot caves, skegs, rescues, and big fish
Kris Buttermore -- Tuesday, 27 June 2006, at 11:34 a.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res
jerry -- Tuesday, 13 June 2006, at 1:12 p.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res
frankP -- Friday, 16 June 2006, at 3:12 p.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res
jerry -- Friday, 16 June 2006, at 4:13 p.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res
jerry -- Tuesday, 13 June 2006, at 4:37 p.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res
Kris Buttermore -- Tuesday, 13 June 2006, at 10:16 a.m.

Re: kayak breathing tube for roll practice and res
Steve Ryan -- Friday, 16 June 2006, at 4:08 p.m.

See Rapid Air *NM* *LINK*
Mick -- Friday, 16 June 2006, at 9:59 p.m.

Re: See Rapid Air
John Monroe -- Saturday, 17 June 2006, at 5:59 a.m.

Rolling Disorientation constructs
mike allen ---> -- Wednesday, 20 June 2001, at 9:01 p.m.

Re: In the basement/rope practice cross-training
Shawn Baker -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 12:46 p.m.

Re: In the basement/rope practice cross-training
Greg Stamer -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 2:11 p.m.

I've got to try this subbing trees for poles... *NM*
Craig MacKinnon -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 2:25 p.m.

The Pinball Wizard
Brianne Corbett -- Wednesday, 20 June 2001, at 9:41 p.m.

Re: Be careful about tubing dimensions!!
WesT -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 10:06 a.m.

Re: Be careful about tubing dimensions!!
Thomas -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 11:25 a.m.

Re: Breathe in, breathe out, Daniel-san
Shawn Baker -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 12:40 p.m.

Re: Breathe in, breathe out, Daniel-san
Brianne Corbett -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 7:13 p.m.

Re: Be careful about tubing dimensions!!
Brianne Corbett -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 6:40 p.m.

Lung Volumn is Irrelevant!!
Thomas -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 9:57 p.m.

Breathing through a tube
Brianne Corbett -- Friday, 22 June 2001, at 11:25 a.m.

Re: Breathing through a tube
Thomas -- Friday, 22 June 2001, at 11:58 a.m.

Re: Breathing through a tube
Brianne Corbett -- Friday, 22 June 2001, at 7:34 p.m.

Stop arguing and get in the kayak now! *NM*
Doesn't matter -- Saturday, 23 June 2001, at 12:10 a.m.

Can I get an amen brothers and sisters! *NM*
Craig MacKinnon -- Saturday, 23 June 2001, at 9:09 a.m.

Re: Not an instructor, my foot!! Thanks Brianne! *NM*
Shawn Baker -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 12:37 p.m.

Re: Thanks All
Ben Staley -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 10:38 a.m.

Roll Aide
Carl Tjerandsen -- Thursday, 21 June 2001, at 11:51 a.m.

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