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Re: Here's the coast guard press release

Posted By: Brian Nystrom
Date: Thursday, 3 March 2005, at 6:57 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Here's the coast guard press release *Pic* (John Monroe)

I hate to get into this again, but since you're still promoting this idea...

A) You haven't proven your idea yet and many of use have told you why it simply isn't going to work in a narrow kayak. It's a totally different animal than a wide canoe with foam sponsons on the gunwales.

B) It's a BAD idea to flood any boat in order to gain stability. Again, many of us have explained the reasons for this.

C) The limited testing you've done with a wider boat has all been on dead flat calm water, which is not representative of the kind of conditions likely to cause a capsize. As many of us have told you, your technique will not only not work in rough water, it's very dangerous to be in a flooded, uncontrollable boat in rough water.

D) Bulkheads and/or float bags provide PROVEN floatation that works with PROVEN rescue methods. An emergency situation is no time to screw around with unproven ideas.

E) Skill trumps gear every time. Learn to brace and roll and all of this fooling around with floatation is unnecessary.

Messages In This Thread

Another tragedy of poor preparation?
Gary -- Monday, 28 February 2005, at 3:22 p.m.

Inexcusable...and with a motorized boat available?
Robert N Pruden -- Monday, 28 February 2005, at 4:10 p.m.

what were the circumstances?
rick stoehrer -- Monday, 28 February 2005, at 10:14 p.m.

Re: what were the circumstances?
Jay Doorly -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 12:18 a.m.

Re: Another tragedy of poor preparation?
Davis -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 2:48 a.m.

Re: Another tragedy of poor preparation?
Mike Scarborough -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 8:02 a.m.

rush to judgement?
rick stoehrer -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 11:24 a.m.

Re: rush to judgement?
shawn baker -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 5:03 p.m.

Re: rush to judgement?
Rehd -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 9:18 a.m.

I admit it, Yes.
Matt Brammer -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 8:24 p.m.

Yes and no
Brian Nystrom -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 7:43 a.m.

Re: Another tragedy of poor preparation?
William N -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 12:08 p.m.

Re: Another tragedy of poor preparation?
Kris Buttermore -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 11:17 a.m.

Poor Preparation and Negligence
Matt Brammer -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 2:01 p.m.

Re: Poor Preparation and Negligence
Ong Yong Hui -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 1:32 a.m.

Re: Poor Preparation and Negligence
Don Flowers -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 3:42 p.m.

Re: Poor Preparation and Negligence *LINK*
Karen Rutherford -- Thursday, 21 August 2008, at 3:42 p.m.

Message to the more inexperienced paddlers here
Robert N Pruden -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 10:45 p.m.

There is NO excuse...
Brian Nystrom -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 7:54 a.m.

Nature bats last... *NM*
M. Hamilton -- Saturday, 5 March 2005, at 10:59 p.m.

Here's the coast guard press release *LINK*
John D. -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 1:51 p.m.

Re: Here's the coast guard press release
Alex M -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 2:33 a.m.

Another Lemon
Davis -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 3:44 a.m.

Re: Another Lemon
Robert N Pruden -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 5:47 a.m.

Re: Another Lemon
Davis -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 10:39 p.m.

Well done, Davis.
Robert N Pruden -- Thursday, 3 March 2005, at 3:18 a.m.

Re: Well done, Davis.
Davis -- Thursday, 3 March 2005, at 3:42 a.m.

Re: Well done, Davis.
Robert N Pruden -- Thursday, 3 March 2005, at 4:28 a.m.

Following up
Pamela -- Friday, 4 March 2005, at 8:09 a.m.

Re: Here's the coast guard press release *Pic*
John Monroe -- Thursday, 3 March 2005, at 5:16 a.m.

Re: Here's the coast guard press release
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 3 March 2005, at 6:57 a.m.

Re: Here's the coast guard press release
John Monroe -- Friday, 4 March 2005, at 3:22 a.m.

You simply don't understand the dangers, John
Brian Nystrom -- Friday, 4 March 2005, at 8:35 a.m.

Re: You simply don't understand the dangers, John
John Monroe -- Saturday, 5 March 2005, at 4:16 a.m.

Re: You simply don't understand the dangers, John
Brian Nystrom -- Saturday, 5 March 2005, at 8:15 a.m.

Bulkheads
Robert N Pruden -- Thursday, 3 March 2005, at 9:28 p.m.

Re: Bulkheads *Pic*
John Monroe -- Friday, 4 March 2005, at 3:56 a.m.

Re: Bulkheads
shawn baker -- Friday, 4 March 2005, at 10:20 a.m.

Re: Bulkheads
Matt Brammer -- Friday, 4 March 2005, at 1:13 p.m.

Re: Here's the coast guard press release
Michael Shugg -- Tuesday, 13 June 2006, at 8:13 p.m.

Re: Here's the coast guard press release
Ian -- Sunday, 6 March 2005, at 4:47 a.m.

Re: Here's the coast guard press release
Brian Nystrom -- Monday, 7 March 2005, at 6:54 a.m.

Re: Here's the coast guard press release
Ian -- Tuesday, 8 March 2005, at 3:55 a.m.

Re: Here's the coast guard press release
FrankP -- Tuesday, 8 March 2005, at 10:50 a.m.

Bad weather comes with clouds attached to it ...
Pamela -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 7:05 a.m.

Re: Bad weather comes with clouds attached to it .
Robert N Pruden -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 7:26 a.m.

Re: Bad weather comes with clouds attached to it .
PatrickC -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 10:25 a.m.

Gulf Information...
Robert N Pruden -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 9:42 p.m.

Re: Gulf Information...
PatrickC -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 11:09 p.m.

Re: Gulf Information...
Robert N Pruden -- Thursday, 3 March 2005, at 3:38 a.m.

Re: Gulf Information...
FrankP -- Monday, 7 March 2005, at 7:45 a.m.

Re: Gulf Information...
Robert N Pruden -- Monday, 7 March 2005, at 9:52 a.m.

Re: Gulf Information...
FrankP -- Monday, 7 March 2005, at 4:19 p.m.

Coaching Fastpitch Ball
Robert N Pruden -- Monday, 7 March 2005, at 5:45 p.m.

Re: Bad weather comes with clouds attached to it .
Karl -- Thursday, 3 March 2005, at 12:28 p.m.

Some more info *LINK*
Matt Brammer -- Sunday, 6 March 2005, at 1:10 a.m.

Stop being so critical! *NM*
Michelle -- Tuesday, 6 June 2006, at 1:17 p.m.

Re: Stop being so critical!
Michelle -- Tuesday, 6 June 2006, at 1:35 p.m.

You're a bit late to the party, Michelle
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 8 June 2006, at 1:46 a.m.

Re: Stop being so critical!
rick -- Friday, 9 June 2006, at 1:38 p.m.

Re: Stop being so critical!
frankP -- Friday, 16 June 2006, at 3:23 p.m.

Re: Another tragedy of poor preparation?
Karen Rutherford -- Thursday, 21 August 2008, at 3:51 p.m.

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