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Yes and no

Posted By: Brian Nystrom
Date: Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 7:43 a.m.

In Response To: rush to judgement? (rick stoehrer)

While you're correct that we don't have all the facts, what we do know indicates that the "leaders" of this trip were woefully incompetent and unprepared.

- Having lived on the Gulf coast as a kid, I can tell you that the weather is fickle and unpredictable. Thunder storms pop up in a heartbeat on a daily basis. There is NO excuse for people who live there not being prepared for such an eventuality. It happens all the time.

- Obviously, no one was watching to make sure that the group stayed together. Otherwise, these kids would not have gotten separated and if they did, the search would have started earlier.

- Nobody had a marine VHF radio! Are you kidding me??? Had there been even one in the group, they could have summoned help as soon as conditions got bad. There's no way for us to know if that would have saved the two lives that were lost, but at least it would have given them a fighting chance.

Three strikes and you're out! Sadly, it was two inocent kids that paid for the incompetence of their leadership with their lives.

Messages In This Thread

Another tragedy of poor preparation?
Gary -- Monday, 28 February 2005, at 3:22 p.m.

Inexcusable...and with a motorized boat available?
Robert N Pruden -- Monday, 28 February 2005, at 4:10 p.m.

what were the circumstances?
rick stoehrer -- Monday, 28 February 2005, at 10:14 p.m.

Re: what were the circumstances?
Jay Doorly -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 12:18 a.m.

Re: Another tragedy of poor preparation?
Davis -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 2:48 a.m.

Re: Another tragedy of poor preparation?
Mike Scarborough -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 8:02 a.m.

rush to judgement?
rick stoehrer -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 11:24 a.m.

Re: rush to judgement?
shawn baker -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 5:03 p.m.

Re: rush to judgement?
Rehd -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 9:18 a.m.

I admit it, Yes.
Matt Brammer -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 8:24 p.m.

Yes and no
Brian Nystrom -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 7:43 a.m.

Re: Another tragedy of poor preparation?
William N -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 12:08 p.m.

Re: Another tragedy of poor preparation?
Kris Buttermore -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 11:17 a.m.

Poor Preparation and Negligence
Matt Brammer -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 2:01 p.m.

Re: Poor Preparation and Negligence
Ong Yong Hui -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 1:32 a.m.

Re: Poor Preparation and Negligence
Don Flowers -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 3:42 p.m.

Re: Poor Preparation and Negligence *LINK*
Karen Rutherford -- Thursday, 21 August 2008, at 3:42 p.m.

Message to the more inexperienced paddlers here
Robert N Pruden -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 10:45 p.m.

There is NO excuse...
Brian Nystrom -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 7:54 a.m.

Nature bats last... *NM*
M. Hamilton -- Saturday, 5 March 2005, at 10:59 p.m.

Here's the coast guard press release *LINK*
John D. -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 1:51 p.m.

Re: Here's the coast guard press release
Alex M -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 2:33 a.m.

Another Lemon
Davis -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 3:44 a.m.

Re: Another Lemon
Robert N Pruden -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 5:47 a.m.

Re: Another Lemon
Davis -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 10:39 p.m.

Well done, Davis.
Robert N Pruden -- Thursday, 3 March 2005, at 3:18 a.m.

Re: Well done, Davis.
Davis -- Thursday, 3 March 2005, at 3:42 a.m.

Re: Well done, Davis.
Robert N Pruden -- Thursday, 3 March 2005, at 4:28 a.m.

Following up
Pamela -- Friday, 4 March 2005, at 8:09 a.m.

Re: Here's the coast guard press release *Pic*
John Monroe -- Thursday, 3 March 2005, at 5:16 a.m.

Re: Here's the coast guard press release
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 3 March 2005, at 6:57 a.m.

Re: Here's the coast guard press release
John Monroe -- Friday, 4 March 2005, at 3:22 a.m.

You simply don't understand the dangers, John
Brian Nystrom -- Friday, 4 March 2005, at 8:35 a.m.

Re: You simply don't understand the dangers, John
John Monroe -- Saturday, 5 March 2005, at 4:16 a.m.

Re: You simply don't understand the dangers, John
Brian Nystrom -- Saturday, 5 March 2005, at 8:15 a.m.

Bulkheads
Robert N Pruden -- Thursday, 3 March 2005, at 9:28 p.m.

Re: Bulkheads *Pic*
John Monroe -- Friday, 4 March 2005, at 3:56 a.m.

Re: Bulkheads
shawn baker -- Friday, 4 March 2005, at 10:20 a.m.

Re: Bulkheads
Matt Brammer -- Friday, 4 March 2005, at 1:13 p.m.

Re: Here's the coast guard press release
Michael Shugg -- Tuesday, 13 June 2006, at 8:13 p.m.

Re: Here's the coast guard press release
Ian -- Sunday, 6 March 2005, at 4:47 a.m.

Re: Here's the coast guard press release
Brian Nystrom -- Monday, 7 March 2005, at 6:54 a.m.

Re: Here's the coast guard press release
Ian -- Tuesday, 8 March 2005, at 3:55 a.m.

Re: Here's the coast guard press release
FrankP -- Tuesday, 8 March 2005, at 10:50 a.m.

Bad weather comes with clouds attached to it ...
Pamela -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 7:05 a.m.

Re: Bad weather comes with clouds attached to it .
Robert N Pruden -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 7:26 a.m.

Re: Bad weather comes with clouds attached to it .
PatrickC -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 10:25 a.m.

Gulf Information...
Robert N Pruden -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 9:42 p.m.

Re: Gulf Information...
PatrickC -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 11:09 p.m.

Re: Gulf Information...
Robert N Pruden -- Thursday, 3 March 2005, at 3:38 a.m.

Re: Gulf Information...
FrankP -- Monday, 7 March 2005, at 7:45 a.m.

Re: Gulf Information...
Robert N Pruden -- Monday, 7 March 2005, at 9:52 a.m.

Re: Gulf Information...
FrankP -- Monday, 7 March 2005, at 4:19 p.m.

Coaching Fastpitch Ball
Robert N Pruden -- Monday, 7 March 2005, at 5:45 p.m.

Re: Bad weather comes with clouds attached to it .
Karl -- Thursday, 3 March 2005, at 12:28 p.m.

Some more info *LINK*
Matt Brammer -- Sunday, 6 March 2005, at 1:10 a.m.

Stop being so critical! *NM*
Michelle -- Tuesday, 6 June 2006, at 1:17 p.m.

Re: Stop being so critical!
Michelle -- Tuesday, 6 June 2006, at 1:35 p.m.

You're a bit late to the party, Michelle
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 8 June 2006, at 1:46 a.m.

Re: Stop being so critical!
rick -- Friday, 9 June 2006, at 1:38 p.m.

Re: Stop being so critical!
frankP -- Friday, 16 June 2006, at 3:23 p.m.

Re: Another tragedy of poor preparation?
Karen Rutherford -- Thursday, 21 August 2008, at 3:51 p.m.

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