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Re: Another tragedy of poor preparation?

Posted By: Kris Buttermore
Date: Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 11:17 a.m.

In Response To: Another tragedy of poor preparation? (Gary)

I got this, forwarded to me via email:

"I am familiar with this area it is fairly remote, and although the water is shallow, and there is protective cover behind islands and inside bays it can get rough during high winds. Paddling a Canoe in this environment, in even moderate weather is really a bad idea.

By Sunday wind gusts were up to 35 knots! Water temperature is the mid 60's, Air temps probably the mid 50's. They probably didn't have any coldwater protective clothing.

I was attending the Sweetwater Kayak symposium about 100 miles south of where this happened this weekend and the weather was nasty. Windy and heavy rain. By Sunday the organizers had to cancel all their morning on-water programs, and this was in a sheltered area.

The following is the tour company that organized the trip, with a description of the remote camping they were planning.
http://www.orrtreks.com/index2.htm

One can only assume they thought the motorized support vessel could handle any problems.

Finally the following link from December describes the paddling trail, but its hard to read after learning of these kid's deaths."
http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/sptimes/770278951.html?MAC=701c04070003417993
fb64b74a14dd5b&did=770278951&FMT=FT&FMTS=FT&date=Dec+23%2C+2004&author=&p
rintformat=&desc=Up+around+the+Bend+Series%3A+PADDLING+THE+TANNIC+SEA

Here's the trip description for the "outfitters" site: http://www.orrtreks.com/trips/springbreak.htm

I would be very surprised if this guy stays in business.

Messages In This Thread

Another tragedy of poor preparation?
Gary -- Monday, 28 February 2005, at 3:22 p.m.

Inexcusable...and with a motorized boat available?
Robert N Pruden -- Monday, 28 February 2005, at 4:10 p.m.

what were the circumstances?
rick stoehrer -- Monday, 28 February 2005, at 10:14 p.m.

Re: what were the circumstances?
Jay Doorly -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 12:18 a.m.

Re: Another tragedy of poor preparation?
Davis -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 2:48 a.m.

Re: Another tragedy of poor preparation?
Mike Scarborough -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 8:02 a.m.

rush to judgement?
rick stoehrer -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 11:24 a.m.

Re: rush to judgement?
shawn baker -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 5:03 p.m.

Re: rush to judgement?
Rehd -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 9:18 a.m.

I admit it, Yes.
Matt Brammer -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 8:24 p.m.

Yes and no
Brian Nystrom -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 7:43 a.m.

Re: Another tragedy of poor preparation?
William N -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 12:08 p.m.

Re: Another tragedy of poor preparation?
Kris Buttermore -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 11:17 a.m.

Poor Preparation and Negligence
Matt Brammer -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 2:01 p.m.

Re: Poor Preparation and Negligence
Ong Yong Hui -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 1:32 a.m.

Re: Poor Preparation and Negligence
Don Flowers -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 3:42 p.m.

Re: Poor Preparation and Negligence *LINK*
Karen Rutherford -- Thursday, 21 August 2008, at 3:42 p.m.

Message to the more inexperienced paddlers here
Robert N Pruden -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 10:45 p.m.

There is NO excuse...
Brian Nystrom -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 7:54 a.m.

Nature bats last... *NM*
M. Hamilton -- Saturday, 5 March 2005, at 10:59 p.m.

Here's the coast guard press release *LINK*
John D. -- Tuesday, 1 March 2005, at 1:51 p.m.

Re: Here's the coast guard press release
Alex M -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 2:33 a.m.

Another Lemon
Davis -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 3:44 a.m.

Re: Another Lemon
Robert N Pruden -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 5:47 a.m.

Re: Another Lemon
Davis -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 10:39 p.m.

Well done, Davis.
Robert N Pruden -- Thursday, 3 March 2005, at 3:18 a.m.

Re: Well done, Davis.
Davis -- Thursday, 3 March 2005, at 3:42 a.m.

Re: Well done, Davis.
Robert N Pruden -- Thursday, 3 March 2005, at 4:28 a.m.

Following up
Pamela -- Friday, 4 March 2005, at 8:09 a.m.

Re: Here's the coast guard press release *Pic*
John Monroe -- Thursday, 3 March 2005, at 5:16 a.m.

Re: Here's the coast guard press release
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 3 March 2005, at 6:57 a.m.

Re: Here's the coast guard press release
John Monroe -- Friday, 4 March 2005, at 3:22 a.m.

You simply don't understand the dangers, John
Brian Nystrom -- Friday, 4 March 2005, at 8:35 a.m.

Re: You simply don't understand the dangers, John
John Monroe -- Saturday, 5 March 2005, at 4:16 a.m.

Re: You simply don't understand the dangers, John
Brian Nystrom -- Saturday, 5 March 2005, at 8:15 a.m.

Bulkheads
Robert N Pruden -- Thursday, 3 March 2005, at 9:28 p.m.

Re: Bulkheads *Pic*
John Monroe -- Friday, 4 March 2005, at 3:56 a.m.

Re: Bulkheads
shawn baker -- Friday, 4 March 2005, at 10:20 a.m.

Re: Bulkheads
Matt Brammer -- Friday, 4 March 2005, at 1:13 p.m.

Re: Here's the coast guard press release
Michael Shugg -- Tuesday, 13 June 2006, at 8:13 p.m.

Re: Here's the coast guard press release
Ian -- Sunday, 6 March 2005, at 4:47 a.m.

Re: Here's the coast guard press release
Brian Nystrom -- Monday, 7 March 2005, at 6:54 a.m.

Re: Here's the coast guard press release
Ian -- Tuesday, 8 March 2005, at 3:55 a.m.

Re: Here's the coast guard press release
FrankP -- Tuesday, 8 March 2005, at 10:50 a.m.

Bad weather comes with clouds attached to it ...
Pamela -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 7:05 a.m.

Re: Bad weather comes with clouds attached to it .
Robert N Pruden -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 7:26 a.m.

Re: Bad weather comes with clouds attached to it .
PatrickC -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 10:25 a.m.

Gulf Information...
Robert N Pruden -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 9:42 p.m.

Re: Gulf Information...
PatrickC -- Wednesday, 2 March 2005, at 11:09 p.m.

Re: Gulf Information...
Robert N Pruden -- Thursday, 3 March 2005, at 3:38 a.m.

Re: Gulf Information...
FrankP -- Monday, 7 March 2005, at 7:45 a.m.

Re: Gulf Information...
Robert N Pruden -- Monday, 7 March 2005, at 9:52 a.m.

Re: Gulf Information...
FrankP -- Monday, 7 March 2005, at 4:19 p.m.

Coaching Fastpitch Ball
Robert N Pruden -- Monday, 7 March 2005, at 5:45 p.m.

Re: Bad weather comes with clouds attached to it .
Karl -- Thursday, 3 March 2005, at 12:28 p.m.

Some more info *LINK*
Matt Brammer -- Sunday, 6 March 2005, at 1:10 a.m.

Stop being so critical! *NM*
Michelle -- Tuesday, 6 June 2006, at 1:17 p.m.

Re: Stop being so critical!
Michelle -- Tuesday, 6 June 2006, at 1:35 p.m.

You're a bit late to the party, Michelle
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 8 June 2006, at 1:46 a.m.

Re: Stop being so critical!
rick -- Friday, 9 June 2006, at 1:38 p.m.

Re: Stop being so critical!
frankP -- Friday, 16 June 2006, at 3:23 p.m.

Re: Another tragedy of poor preparation?
Karen Rutherford -- Thursday, 21 August 2008, at 3:51 p.m.

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