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Re: Help needed with paddle purchase

Posted By: LeeG
Date: Saturday, 7 July 2001, at 10:45 p.m.

In Response To: Help needed with paddle purchase (David)

: Hey there folks, including Shawn, Lee, Murray and Jed;

: I demoed a carbon fibre Lightening paddle today. Sweeet. But, one thing, when
: I really push-pulled on it, I got a flutter from turbulence at the blade
: tip. It is a 245 cm, I am 5'10". Got a fibreglass paddle I will
: continue to use as
: back-up for rock and shoal landings, and I dig the light weight and
: responsive feel of the Lightening. This blade is really sweet, aside from
: the flutter.
: My concern is if I have to kick ass in big winds, this flutter will produce
: an unstable feel and reduced water-pulling performance.

: When I did a regulation full torso rotation the paddle moved effortlessly,
: but when I added some push-pull and really pumped up the torso rotation,
: the blade flutter bothered me. Now, I can see why the flutter might
: happen, the blade is super thin on this paddle, so turbulence will cause
: some vibration, which I ain't used to on FG.

: Here is my question;

: a. is the turbulence technique related, or does it require an adjustment to
: this new feel? I am a certified CRCA kayaking instructor, but that forward
: stroke always needs work, and maybe the paddle is amplifying some bad
: habit about paddle angle in the water, etc...

I had a 225cm standard sea kayak Lightning, yes it can flutter, that length of paddle feels long for the big bite those blades are capable of (to me), I've got a 215 on order along with a 220 Offshore.
: b. would a longer shaft minimize this vibration? You never know.

"vibration" "flutter" not sure which one you're describing. maybe I'll find out when it comes in as the 215 is supposed to have carbon blades (Bargain Bin paddles)
: c. is this a possible limitation or design flaw with super thin blades?
Is this a Standard model or Offshore or what?
: d. has this happened for any of you, and any ideas on what to look for in a
: good carbon fibre paddle?

In this realm it's personal preference.
: Thanks folks, if possible, can you respond by Monday, I got it from the Co-Op
: here, and should return it/exchange it by Monday to be fair to them.

Messages In This Thread

Help needed with paddle purchase
David -- Saturday, 7 July 2001, at 6:09 p.m.
Re: Help needed with paddle purchase
David -- Saturday, 7 July 2001, at 6:12 p.m.
Re: Help needed with paddle purchase
Murray -- Saturday, 7 July 2001, at 6:20 p.m.
Re: Help needed with paddle purchase
Jed -- Saturday, 7 July 2001, at 11:16 p.m.
not paddle type related, but - - -
Dan -- Saturday, 7 July 2001, at 7:27 p.m.
Speaking of paddle length
Larry C. -- Saturday, 7 July 2001, at 7:57 p.m.
Re: Speaking of paddle length
David -- Saturday, 7 July 2001, at 9:01 p.m.
Re: Help needed with paddle purchase
LeeG -- Saturday, 7 July 2001, at 10:45 p.m.
Re: Help needed with paddle purchase
Larry C. -- Sunday, 8 July 2001, at 12:30 p.m.
Re: Help needed with paddle purchase
LeeG -- Sunday, 8 July 2001, at 10:08 p.m.
whetstone carbon at www.kayakstore.com
Brad -- Tuesday, 10 July 2001, at 10:59 p.m.
Re: whetstone carbon at www.kayakstore.com
James -- Friday, 6 April 2007, at 8:10 a.m.
Re: whetstone carbon at www.kayakstore.com
Brian Nystrom -- Saturday, 7 April 2007, at 9:45 a.m.

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