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Re: Deep trouble

Posted By: Don Beale
Date: Wednesday, 27 December 2000, at 10:10 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Deep trouble (M. Hamilton)

Do you think that not being aware of potential conditions is more of a factor than not dressing for immersion? Or practicing skills? It seems to me that most, if not all, of the people who were seriously injured or died, were directly related to attire. It seems a recurring theme; had they been LESS hypothermic, that rescue could have been succsessful, or had they practices wet reentry skills in the rough, etc... It's true that they got into conditions they didnt expect, but my point is that they werent prepared for immersion. All of the deaths are directly realted to this, and many of the close calls.

Also, I'm interested in hearing others's "short list" of recommended safety items that they normally DONT carry (but should!). Mine was a little longer than I like to admit.

: Hi Don, George is a very good friend and paddling partner. I also do some
: work for him occassionally. I guess your comments make me want to restate
: what I have several times. We kayakers spend time learning the skills of
: kayaking, but often do not learn the skills of being a mariner. So often
: folks really do not understand current, tide, fetch, navigation, set and
: drift, and the dreaded Rules. I think it's all important to being safe and
: a courteous mariner. Hopefully boards like this will spark some interest
: in folks to have fun learning skills that they may not have. We all keep
: learning eh? Cheers MH

Messages In This Thread

Deep trouble
Don Beale -- Tuesday, 26 December 2000, at 2:27 p.m.
Re: Deep trouble
M. Hamilton -- Wednesday, 27 December 2000, at 12:01 a.m.
Re: Deep trouble
Don Beale -- Wednesday, 27 December 2000, at 10:10 a.m.
Re: Deep trouble
Matt -- Wednesday, 27 December 2000, at 4:20 p.m.
Re: second that :>skills,
Lee -- Wednesday, 27 December 2000, at 6:02 p.m.
Re: Deep trouble
Tom -- Wednesday, 27 December 2000, at 4:51 p.m.
Re: Deep trouble
Lee -- Wednesday, 27 December 2000, at 6:28 p.m.
better splashed than immersed
Randy Knauff -- Wednesday, 27 December 2000, at 9:35 p.m.
Re: voice of experience
Lee -- Thursday, 28 December 2000, at 8:22 p.m.
Re: better splashed than immersed
mike allen ---> -- Thursday, 4 January 2001, at 6:52 p.m.
Check List
Tom Tieman -- Wednesday, 27 December 2000, at 9:33 p.m.
Re: Check List
Don Beale -- Wednesday, 27 December 2000, at 10:02 p.m.
Re: Check List
Jed -- Wednesday, 27 December 2000, at 11:18 p.m.
Re: Am I in the minority here?
Don Beale -- Thursday, 28 December 2000, at 12:13 p.m.
Not at all.
Jed -- Thursday, 28 December 2000, at 1:24 p.m.
proper dress for conditions?
tom -- Thursday, 28 December 2000, at 1:35 p.m.
Re: proper dress for conditions?
Tom -- Thursday, 28 December 2000, at 5:40 p.m.
Re: But in the end..
Don Beale -- Thursday, 28 December 2000, at 6:35 p.m.
Re: But in the end..
Lee -- Thursday, 28 December 2000, at 9:21 p.m.
C'mon Lee...
Brian Nystrom -- Wednesday, 3 January 2001, at 4:21 p.m.
Re: C'mon Lee...
Lee -- Saturday, 6 January 2001, at 6:29 p.m.
Cold Rolls
Carl Tjerandsen -- Friday, 29 December 2000, at 10:44 a.m.
ear plugs
Matt -- Friday, 29 December 2000, at 12:00 p.m.
Re: ear plugs
Carl Tjerandsen -- Friday, 29 December 2000, at 6:44 p.m.
Re: Cold Rolls
Don Beale -- Friday, 29 December 2000, at 12:33 p.m.
Re: Cold Rolls
Tom -- Friday, 29 December 2000, at 3:26 p.m.
Re: Cold Rolls
Don Beale -- Saturday, 30 December 2000, at 1:41 a.m.
Re: Cold Rolls
Lee -- Saturday, 30 December 2000, at 11:41 p.m.
Re: Cold Rolls
Tom -- Tuesday, 2 January 2001, at 9:50 a.m.
Apprehension
Brian Nystrom -- Wednesday, 3 January 2001, at 4:29 p.m.
Surf Qualifier
Carl Tjerandsen -- Wednesday, 3 January 2001, at 6:35 p.m.
Re: Cold Rolls
Tom -- Friday, 29 December 2000, at 3:24 p.m.
Ear plugs or a hood?
Brian Nystrom -- Wednesday, 3 January 2001, at 4:16 p.m.
Re: proper dress for conditions?
Capt. M. Hamilton -- Thursday, 28 December 2000, at 10:27 p.m.
Re: proper dress for conditions?
Tom -- Friday, 29 December 2000, at 3:28 p.m.
Tow lines are easy to make
Brian Nystrom -- Wednesday, 3 January 2001, at 3:58 p.m.
Re: Tow lines are easy to make
Don Beale -- Wednesday, 3 January 2001, at 4:42 p.m.
Throw bag Tow line
Ray -- Thursday, 4 January 2001, at 10:38 a.m.
Re: Towing powerboats
Shawn Baker -- Saturday, 6 January 2001, at 12:34 a.m.
Re: Towing powerboats
Robert Woodard -- Saturday, 6 January 2001, at 1:19 p.m.
Re: Check List on a Budget
Shawn Baker -- Saturday, 6 January 2001, at 12:23 a.m.
Re: Check List on a Budget
Don Beale -- Saturday, 6 January 2001, at 7:51 p.m.
Re: Check List on a Budget
Shawn Baker -- Monday, 8 January 2001, at 12:11 p.m.
Re: If you want strength for thickness...
Don Beale -- Thursday, 11 January 2001, at 10:31 p.m.

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