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Re: Wind and its effect on kayaking

Posted By: Mike Savage
Date: Thursday, 29 May 2008, at 6:50 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Wind and its effect on kayaking (Etienne Muller)

: I forget the math but it is obvious from experience too. The formula is
: something like "a body moving into the wind is affect through
: resistence by its surface area multiplied by the speed of the wind
: multiplied by the velocety of the object" ??? or some such.

: From the above you can see that wind has a huge effect when it is opposing
: us. If you were moveing at 5 kph into a 3 kph wind you are feeling the
: effect of 15 kph of wind. What was a virtually negigible airflow quickly
: becomes a gale on a geometric scale. Especially if you cast a wide shadow.

: Thus the advent of feathered paddles.

: Considering a kayakers maximum possible speed the wind can very quickly
: convert forward effort into backward movement.

: On the other hand, following winds for some reason, seem to have very little
: effect, and the effect is not exponential as for upwind work. This is a
: prime example of Murphy's Law in action. Another prime example is "
: That no matter what your destination, It will always be into the
: wind."

: The upside of this is that navigation is always easy if one rembers this law.

: The third law of wind is that "If you are at sea with a splashy paddler,
: they will be upwind of you."

: The best one can say for following winds is that they do not hamper you.
: Unless of course you carry a golf umbrella with you that you can deploy or
: you subscribe, as I do to, to the use of unfeathered dustbin-lid paddle
: blades, as discussed in previous submissions, Then they can be very
: useful.

: Etienne Muller

Hi Etienne and Michael,
Small mistakes, Et,the apparent wind speed of a kayaker in a headwind is the kayaker speed ADDED to the wind speed, rather than multiplied together.
The formula for wind pressure is W =0.004x(V squared)xA. W = weight of wind in lbs. V = relative wind speed in mph. A = the area of the body effected i square feet.

The reason for the extra effort needed to paddle into the wind with a small increase in wind speed is the squaring factor in the wind velocity.

Hope this helps,
Mike Savage
South West Cork

Messages In This Thread

Wind and its effect on kayaking
Michael -- Wednesday, 7 May 2008, at 9:35 a.m.
Re: Wind and its effect on kayaking
Robert N Pruden -- Wednesday, 7 May 2008, at 11:45 p.m.
Addendum
Robert N Pruden -- Wednesday, 7 May 2008, at 11:51 p.m.
Re: Wind and its effect on kayaking
Etienne Muller -- Wednesday, 28 May 2008, at 3:59 p.m.
Re: Wind and its effect on kayaking
Mike Savage -- Thursday, 29 May 2008, at 6:50 a.m.
Re: Wind and its effect on kayaking
Etienne Muller -- Friday, 30 May 2008, at 5:28 p.m.
Re: Wind and its effect on kayaking
Mike Savage -- Saturday, 31 May 2008, at 8:10 a.m.
Re: Wind and its effect on kayaking
Ken -- Wednesday, 4 June 2008, at 8:04 p.m.
Re: Wind and its effect on kayaking
Paul -- Monday, 23 June 2008, at 6:02 p.m.
Re: Wind and its effect on kayaking
JohnK -- Monday, 30 June 2008, at 5:32 a.m.
Re: Wind and its effect on kayaking
Paul -- Wednesday, 2 July 2008, at 11:52 p.m.

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