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Re: Sponsons

Posted By: Lee
Date: Wednesday, 20 December 2000, at 6:20 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Sponsons (Ray)

: The kayaking industry as a whole, with some exceptions, does not take safety
: as seriously as it could. Its not profitable to do so especially when its
: growing like it is now. So, great websites like this one take up the
: cause. Don't bash Tim too badly, he's actually a very nice guy with a very
: good product.

Hi Ray, I'm wading into the liability/personal responsibility issue on this topic. I've raced bicycles,owned a bike shop, helped promote races, and now work in the "sea kayak" industry as an instructor and also for a small company on the fringe of the sea kayak businesses. In my experience there are more individuals threatening their own lives and the lives of others coming from their own values and life experience than there are of manufacturers and retailers "not informing customers of the risks involved"

Just out of curiousity do you know anybody that operates a motorized vehicle while talking on a cell phone?

What could "the kayaking industry as a whole" do to take safety as seriously as it could?

Anybody that advocates lawsuits as a means to recognize risk has the cart so far ahead of the horse as to be not in the same county, or at least understand what the road is for. Sorry for my high horse but I'm still struck by the tragedy of my neighbor that has a Bayliner from suing the restaurant where he slipped and injured his back, a 300hp gas speed boat for a guy that walks with a cane!. I knew an ex-bike racer that sued the bike shop because he wiped out at high speed on his mtn. bike, he had the 26x1.95 tires pumped to 85psi, the court tossed it out but the shop owner was screwed by this customer then later by the insurance co.,, oh the shop owners personal assets were probably $100k the ex-racer fireman probably worth $400k with four times the income with his professional wife.

I guess what I'm getting at is that when people "play" they have to look to themselves first for taking safety seriously. People buy toys, they can't buy responsibility, information, risk assesment or good judgement.
Back to my original question, what could this industry do to take safety seriously as it could?

Messages In This Thread

Solo Paddling
Dwight -- Monday, 4 December 2000, at 6:38 p.m.
Re: Solo Paddling
Don Beale -- Monday, 4 December 2000, at 6:55 p.m.
Re: Solo Paddling *NM*
Jax -- Tuesday, 5 December 2000, at 8:35 p.m.
kayak Fishing
Steve M -- Tuesday, 5 December 2000, at 9:30 p.m.
Re: kayak Fishing
Ian Johnston -- Tuesday, 5 December 2000, at 10:48 p.m.
Sponsons
Brian Nystrom -- Wednesday, 6 December 2000, at 11:11 a.m.
Re: Sponsons
Ray -- Thursday, 7 December 2000, at 3:24 p.m.
Better look again
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 7 December 2000, at 5:12 p.m.
Re: Sponsons
Lee -- Wednesday, 20 December 2000, at 6:20 p.m.
Re: Sponsons
dave mcadoo -- Thursday, 21 December 2000, at 5:36 p.m.
Re: Kayak safety
Tom -- Friday, 22 December 2000, at 10:18 a.m.
Re: Kayak safety
M. Hamilton -- Friday, 22 December 2000, at 7:13 p.m.
Re: Kayak safety
Lee -- Friday, 22 December 2000, at 9:46 p.m.
Re: Kayak safety
M.Hamilton -- Saturday, 23 December 2000, at 12:44 p.m.
Re: Kayak safety
Lee -- Saturday, 23 December 2000, at 2:30 p.m.
Re: Kayak safety
Robert Woodard -- Sunday, 24 December 2000, at 11:13 p.m.
Re: Kayak safety
Lee -- Monday, 25 December 2000, at 9:34 a.m.
Re: Kayak safety
Robert Woodard -- Monday, 25 December 2000, at 5:48 p.m.
Re: Kayak safety
Lee -- Friday, 22 December 2000, at 9:56 p.m.
Re: Kayak safety
Roy Morford -- Friday, 22 December 2000, at 10:57 p.m.
Re: Kayak safety
Lee -- Saturday, 23 December 2000, at 2:46 p.m.
Re: Kayak safety
Roy Morford -- Saturday, 23 December 2000, at 3:32 p.m.
Kayak safety - the value of a dry suit
Brian Nystrom -- Tuesday, 2 January 2001, at 3:53 p.m.
Re: Dry suit vs Neoprene?
Don Beale -- Monday, 8 January 2001, at 11:30 a.m.
It depends
Brian Nystrom -- Monday, 8 January 2001, at 12:51 p.m.
We are SAfe!
dave mcadoo -- Saturday, 23 December 2000, at 3:59 p.m.
Re: thunderboats
Lee -- Saturday, 23 December 2000, at 6:32 p.m.
Re: thunderboats
dave mcadoo -- Saturday, 23 December 2000, at 10:26 p.m.
Re: Kayak safety
Nick Schade -- Tuesday, 26 December 2000, at 10:53 a.m.
Re: Industry Safety
Ray -- Wednesday, 27 December 2000, at 10:51 a.m.
Industry Safety? I don't think so.
Brian Nystrom -- Tuesday, 2 January 2001, at 5:56 p.m.
Re: Solo Paddling
M. Hamilton -- Tuesday, 5 December 2000, at 1:55 a.m.
Re: Solo Paddling
M. Hamilton -- Tuesday, 5 December 2000, at 1:58 a.m.
Re: Solo Paddling
Ian Johnston -- Tuesday, 5 December 2000, at 4:39 a.m.
Solo Paddling
liv2padl -- Tuesday, 5 December 2000, at 7:28 a.m.
Re: Solo Paddling
Bert -- Tuesday, 5 December 2000, at 7:30 a.m.
Re: Solo Paddling
dave mcadoo -- Tuesday, 5 December 2000, at 3:05 p.m.
Re: Solo Paddling
Bill Bradshaw -- Tuesday, 5 December 2000, at 4:54 p.m.
Re: Solo Paddling *NM*
pat joyce -- Wednesday, 6 December 2000, at 3:56 p.m.
Re: Solo Paddling
pat joyce -- Wednesday, 6 December 2000, at 4:00 p.m.
Re: Solo Paddling
FBC -- Tuesday, 5 December 2000, at 8:37 p.m.

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