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Re: Pump outlet location

Posted By: Todd Bradshaw
Date: Thursday, 7 December 2000, at 9:07 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Pump outlet location (Brian Nystrom)

: FYI, this is not an issue with a manual pumps (deck or foot). All manual
: pumps include check valves, so backflow through the pump is not possible.

True, we use them for back-up. The nice thing about the electric pump is that you can use the rest of your body for things like paddling and bracing while the pump empties the boat.

: If you're going to do this, I suggest you use an elbow on the deck to direct
: the water to the side, so you're not getting showered while you pump.

Gee, I guess I am going to do it. I've been buying, selling, building, paddling and teaching kayaks and kayaking since 1971, so I'm pretty well commited at this point. Depending upon deck camber, an elbow may not be needed. I have two boats with arched decks and straight through-hull outlets and have had no problems whatsoever with getting sprayed by the pumps. They just spout like a whale out and back from the cockpit. I have another with a recessed "dent" in the deck for the pump (in front of the cockpit) and a straight-line fitting that shoots up and out to the side.

: That's fine as long as you're not in rough water. If water is washing over
: the boat, it'll take forever to empty it as it will constantly be
: re-filling. Most skirts that I've used will not stay on the coaming well
: if any section is not fully seated.

That's why it's better to run pumps through-deck.

: This sounds good in theory, but have you ever tried it? Under the conditions
: of a typical rescue, it's going to be a major pain to do.

Can be, but it might allow you to use your hands for something other than pumping. Here again, a through-deck is better. I realize that it bucks the current "no boundries - extreme sport" mentality that seems to be invading most wilderness sports these days, but in my opinion, a "typical rescue" should be no rescue. No amount of hardware is a substitute for sound technique and learning to paddle within your limitations and abilities. Rescues should be well practiced, very rare and anything but typical.

Messages In This Thread

bilge pumps
Dwight -- Wednesday, 29 November 2000, at 7:36 p.m.
Re: bilge pumps
dave mcadoo -- Wednesday, 29 November 2000, at 9:33 p.m.
Foot and deck pumps
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 30 November 2000, at 11:34 a.m.
foot pumps and hand helds - - -
dan -- Thursday, 30 November 2000, at 12:50 p.m.
Re: foot pumps and hand helds - - -
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 30 November 2000, at 5:03 p.m.
clarification - - -
dan -- Thursday, 30 November 2000, at 5:30 p.m.
pfd leash victim stabilization
mike allen ---} -- Thursday, 30 November 2000, at 8:58 p.m.
Re: clarification - - -
Brian Nystrom -- Friday, 1 December 2000, at 11:24 a.m.
Re: handpump down the skirt tube...
Shawn Baker -- Friday, 1 December 2000, at 12:36 p.m.
Re: handpump down the skirt tube...
Jed -- Saturday, 2 December 2000, at 12:46 a.m.
Hand vs. deck. vs. foot
Brian Nystrom -- Monday, 4 December 2000, at 1:17 p.m.
Re: Hand vs. deck. vs. foot
Jed -- Monday, 4 December 2000, at 2:41 p.m.
Re: Hand vs. deck. vs. foot
Brian Nystrom -- Tuesday, 5 December 2000, at 2:59 p.m.
Re: Electric Is It !
Ian Johnston -- Saturday, 2 December 2000, at 3:14 a.m.
foot pumps, electric pumps ... rolls - - - -
liv2padl -- Saturday, 2 December 2000, at 7:19 a.m.
Re: Electric Is It !
Bert -- Saturday, 2 December 2000, at 7:48 a.m.
Re: 'lectric pumps
Ian Johnston -- Saturday, 2 December 2000, at 11:51 a.m.
Re: 'lectric pumps
Jo Lefler -- Saturday, 2 December 2000, at 6:15 p.m.
Re: 'lectric pumps
Todd Bradshaw -- Sunday, 3 December 2000, at 1:11 p.m.
Re: Batteries
Ian Johnston -- Sunday, 3 December 2000, at 9:38 p.m.
Re: 'lectric pumps
Robert Woodard -- Sunday, 3 December 2000, at 8:53 p.m.
Re: 'lectric pumps
Bert -- Tuesday, 5 December 2000, at 7:03 a.m.
Pump outlet location
Brian Nystrom -- Monday, 4 December 2000, at 1:00 p.m.
Re: Pump outlet location
risto -- Thursday, 7 December 2000, at 11:53 a.m.
Re: Pump outlet location
Todd Bradshaw -- Thursday, 7 December 2000, at 12:24 p.m.
Re: Pump outlet location
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 7 December 2000, at 12:49 p.m.
Re: Pump outlet location
Todd Bradshaw -- Thursday, 7 December 2000, at 9:07 p.m.
Hard to say
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 7 December 2000, at 12:42 p.m.
The last thing you want?
Jed -- Thursday, 7 December 2000, at 2:38 p.m.
Re: bilge pumps
Greg Stamer -- Wednesday, 29 November 2000, at 11:09 p.m.
Re: bilge pumps
Tom Dowling -- Thursday, 30 November 2000, at 12:17 p.m.
Re: bilge pumps
Lee -- Thursday, 30 November 2000, at 6:30 p.m.
Re: bilge pumps
Carl Tjerandsen -- Saturday, 2 December 2000, at 7:54 p.m.

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