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Re: 'lectric pumps

Posted By: Todd Bradshaw
Date: Sunday, 3 December 2000, at 1:11 p.m.

In Response To: Re: 'lectric pumps (Jo Lefler)

: What kind of batteries are you folks using on the 'lectric pumps?

If you use a standard 12 volt marine pump, you will want a 12 volt gell-cell. They are blocky little buggers and fairly heavy, but fit in a pelican box and have a lot of power. I've got one that's 6"x2.5"x3.75" and rated at 7 amp hours. It probably weighs two pounds, but there are smaller ones available. I got mine at one of those battery stores that cater to electronic stuff. Things that need to be considered are securing it well enough that it can't fall out and fire! It would be kind of embarassing to burn down your kayak! Having shorted out the terminals once (not kayaking) I can vouch for the fact that they have enough power to weld metal and burn a hole in the case. You also need to be sure that you can turn the pump off easily when it's done so that it doesn't burn out the motor.

We also have a couple of boats with Attwood "Water Buster", battery operated pumps (West Marine sells them at about $40) installed in them. They run off of three D-cells and are rated at 200 gph. They claim that the pump will run up to five hours on a set of batteries. We plumbed them through the deck behind the cockpit and tied them in. Though 200 gph isn't great, the fact that you can start the pump as soon as your head comes out of the water and it will be working, with no help from you, all the time that you are getting back in the boat etc. is nice. If conditions are bad, you can seal your skirt, paddle, brace or whatever and just let the pump work. If you aren't able to turn it off because you're busy elsewhere, it doesn't matter. It will waste battery power, but it won't burn-up the motor or the boat. If conditions are calm, you can use your hand pump to help it out.

The Water Buster is fairly light (it has a steel plate on the bottom for optional ballast, that you'll want to remove) but it's fairly bulky. There is a lot of empty space inside the cylindrical housing (about 5" dia.). I have every intention of drawing-up a "kayaker's configuration" and sending it to Attwood this winter, but who knows if they will be open to the idea. Since a kayaker's needs don't require lifting the water a long distance, they might even be able to boost the flow a bit.

On a related subject. I think I'm going to try adding a small "chimney" to a spray skirt, in front of the paddler. Something just big enough to stick the shaft of a hand pump through and maybe 4" tall. The top will have a roll-top closure, like a Cascade Bag to seal it when not in use. That way, I can put the skirt on, snug it up and still pump. If I need to let go of the pump to do a little bracing or paddle, it should stay in place pretty well. I haven't had the pleasure of being dumped out of a kayak in about 25 years, but I'm getting old and stiff and sooner or later, it'll probably happen again.

Messages In This Thread

bilge pumps
Dwight -- Wednesday, 29 November 2000, at 7:36 p.m.
Re: bilge pumps
dave mcadoo -- Wednesday, 29 November 2000, at 9:33 p.m.
Foot and deck pumps
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 30 November 2000, at 11:34 a.m.
foot pumps and hand helds - - -
dan -- Thursday, 30 November 2000, at 12:50 p.m.
Re: foot pumps and hand helds - - -
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 30 November 2000, at 5:03 p.m.
clarification - - -
dan -- Thursday, 30 November 2000, at 5:30 p.m.
pfd leash victim stabilization
mike allen ---} -- Thursday, 30 November 2000, at 8:58 p.m.
Re: clarification - - -
Brian Nystrom -- Friday, 1 December 2000, at 11:24 a.m.
Re: handpump down the skirt tube...
Shawn Baker -- Friday, 1 December 2000, at 12:36 p.m.
Re: handpump down the skirt tube...
Jed -- Saturday, 2 December 2000, at 12:46 a.m.
Hand vs. deck. vs. foot
Brian Nystrom -- Monday, 4 December 2000, at 1:17 p.m.
Re: Hand vs. deck. vs. foot
Jed -- Monday, 4 December 2000, at 2:41 p.m.
Re: Hand vs. deck. vs. foot
Brian Nystrom -- Tuesday, 5 December 2000, at 2:59 p.m.
Re: Electric Is It !
Ian Johnston -- Saturday, 2 December 2000, at 3:14 a.m.
foot pumps, electric pumps ... rolls - - - -
liv2padl -- Saturday, 2 December 2000, at 7:19 a.m.
Re: Electric Is It !
Bert -- Saturday, 2 December 2000, at 7:48 a.m.
Re: 'lectric pumps
Ian Johnston -- Saturday, 2 December 2000, at 11:51 a.m.
Re: 'lectric pumps
Jo Lefler -- Saturday, 2 December 2000, at 6:15 p.m.
Re: 'lectric pumps
Todd Bradshaw -- Sunday, 3 December 2000, at 1:11 p.m.
Re: Batteries
Ian Johnston -- Sunday, 3 December 2000, at 9:38 p.m.
Re: 'lectric pumps
Robert Woodard -- Sunday, 3 December 2000, at 8:53 p.m.
Re: 'lectric pumps
Bert -- Tuesday, 5 December 2000, at 7:03 a.m.
Pump outlet location
Brian Nystrom -- Monday, 4 December 2000, at 1:00 p.m.
Re: Pump outlet location
risto -- Thursday, 7 December 2000, at 11:53 a.m.
Re: Pump outlet location
Todd Bradshaw -- Thursday, 7 December 2000, at 12:24 p.m.
Re: Pump outlet location
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 7 December 2000, at 12:49 p.m.
Re: Pump outlet location
Todd Bradshaw -- Thursday, 7 December 2000, at 9:07 p.m.
Hard to say
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 7 December 2000, at 12:42 p.m.
The last thing you want?
Jed -- Thursday, 7 December 2000, at 2:38 p.m.
Re: bilge pumps
Greg Stamer -- Wednesday, 29 November 2000, at 11:09 p.m.
Re: bilge pumps
Tom Dowling -- Thursday, 30 November 2000, at 12:17 p.m.
Re: bilge pumps
Lee -- Thursday, 30 November 2000, at 6:30 p.m.
Re: bilge pumps
Carl Tjerandsen -- Saturday, 2 December 2000, at 7:54 p.m.

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