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Re: foot pumps and hand helds - - -

Posted By: Brian Nystrom
Date: Thursday, 30 November 2000, at 5:03 p.m.

In Response To: foot pumps and hand helds - - - (dan)

: when i'm teaching rescues in situations
: where the cockpit is full of water, i have the rescuer stabilize the
: rescuee while clearing the cockpit with a handheld of about 80 percent of
: the water. that's sufficient to then have the rescued person get the
: sprayskirt fully on the cockpit and bale the rest with a footpump if he
: has one.

I'm a bit puzzled about this and the following statement. In rough water, I've found it to be imperative to get the skirt fully on immediately once the victim is back in the boat. The hand pump is then stuck down the front of the spray skirt tunnel and the cockpit is pumped out. If I were rescuing someone with a footpump. I'd expect them to use that, or both the foot and hand pumps simultaneously.

: when performing rescues, you should be able to return the rescued
: paddler to a virtually dry boat given the kind of cockpit configuration
: which lends itself to that --- i.e, bulkhead directly behind the seat.

Are you suggesting that the victim be left in the water until the rescuer pumps out the boat? Whenever possible, I prefer to empty the victim's boat over mine, rather than pumping the water out. It's much faster and far less tiring, since both the rescuer and the victim are sharing the work.

However, if the conditions are too rough for boat-over-boat emptying, I've been taught that getting the victim back into the boat with the spray skirt sealed is paramount. The rescuer then stabilizes the victim's boat while the victim pumps. It may take some time to do this, but I've found it to be a very stable position, even in surf. I've been the victim in this situation and while sitting in water isn't fun or comfortable, it's a lot better than swimming. If nothing else, simply being back in the boat is a big psychological boost.

Messages In This Thread

bilge pumps
Dwight -- Wednesday, 29 November 2000, at 7:36 p.m.
Re: bilge pumps
dave mcadoo -- Wednesday, 29 November 2000, at 9:33 p.m.
Foot and deck pumps
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 30 November 2000, at 11:34 a.m.
foot pumps and hand helds - - -
dan -- Thursday, 30 November 2000, at 12:50 p.m.
Re: foot pumps and hand helds - - -
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 30 November 2000, at 5:03 p.m.
clarification - - -
dan -- Thursday, 30 November 2000, at 5:30 p.m.
pfd leash victim stabilization
mike allen ---} -- Thursday, 30 November 2000, at 8:58 p.m.
Re: clarification - - -
Brian Nystrom -- Friday, 1 December 2000, at 11:24 a.m.
Re: handpump down the skirt tube...
Shawn Baker -- Friday, 1 December 2000, at 12:36 p.m.
Re: handpump down the skirt tube...
Jed -- Saturday, 2 December 2000, at 12:46 a.m.
Hand vs. deck. vs. foot
Brian Nystrom -- Monday, 4 December 2000, at 1:17 p.m.
Re: Hand vs. deck. vs. foot
Jed -- Monday, 4 December 2000, at 2:41 p.m.
Re: Hand vs. deck. vs. foot
Brian Nystrom -- Tuesday, 5 December 2000, at 2:59 p.m.
Re: Electric Is It !
Ian Johnston -- Saturday, 2 December 2000, at 3:14 a.m.
foot pumps, electric pumps ... rolls - - - -
liv2padl -- Saturday, 2 December 2000, at 7:19 a.m.
Re: Electric Is It !
Bert -- Saturday, 2 December 2000, at 7:48 a.m.
Re: 'lectric pumps
Ian Johnston -- Saturday, 2 December 2000, at 11:51 a.m.
Re: 'lectric pumps
Jo Lefler -- Saturday, 2 December 2000, at 6:15 p.m.
Re: 'lectric pumps
Todd Bradshaw -- Sunday, 3 December 2000, at 1:11 p.m.
Re: Batteries
Ian Johnston -- Sunday, 3 December 2000, at 9:38 p.m.
Re: 'lectric pumps
Robert Woodard -- Sunday, 3 December 2000, at 8:53 p.m.
Re: 'lectric pumps
Bert -- Tuesday, 5 December 2000, at 7:03 a.m.
Pump outlet location
Brian Nystrom -- Monday, 4 December 2000, at 1:00 p.m.
Re: Pump outlet location
risto -- Thursday, 7 December 2000, at 11:53 a.m.
Re: Pump outlet location
Todd Bradshaw -- Thursday, 7 December 2000, at 12:24 p.m.
Re: Pump outlet location
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 7 December 2000, at 12:49 p.m.
Re: Pump outlet location
Todd Bradshaw -- Thursday, 7 December 2000, at 9:07 p.m.
Hard to say
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 7 December 2000, at 12:42 p.m.
The last thing you want?
Jed -- Thursday, 7 December 2000, at 2:38 p.m.
Re: bilge pumps
Greg Stamer -- Wednesday, 29 November 2000, at 11:09 p.m.
Re: bilge pumps
Tom Dowling -- Thursday, 30 November 2000, at 12:17 p.m.
Re: bilge pumps
Lee -- Thursday, 30 November 2000, at 6:30 p.m.
Re: bilge pumps
Carl Tjerandsen -- Saturday, 2 December 2000, at 7:54 p.m.

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