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Re: Conceptual orientation

Posted By: Greg Stamer
Date: Monday, 11 September 2000, at 6:07 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Conceptual orientation (Don Beale)

: I guess I'm a little confused here. I did find that rolling 360 could be
: disorienting, but with the dive mask I was able to look and see what was
: wrong with the setup, and fix it. I'm confused as to why it matters what
: the orientation with the rest of the world is; it seems to me that what
: really matters is the orientation for the setup, or the spatial
: orientation from paddler to boat. Once up, if the compass is facing a
: different direction than you thought it ought, well, not really a big
: deal? Or am I missing something?

Many people get confused when they tuck the paddle on their left side on the surface and are told that they will be sweeping a wide arc on their right side after they capsize. At first it doesn't seem physically possible. The movement only becomes possible *after* you capsize and thinking about it too much on the surface can leave some analytical types with a bad headache. I find that the confusion is eliminated if you stand on the right side of the student's kayak (assuming that they tuck on the left) and capsize them toward you so that they can easily see how their tuck position puts the paddle in the perfect position for the sweep without any additional action on their part.

Greg Stamer

Orlando, Florida

Messages In This Thread

emergency roll
MT -- Thursday, 7 September 2000, at 4:48 p.m.
Re: emergency roll
Roger -- Thursday, 7 September 2000, at 5:17 p.m.
emergency roll order of attempts
mike allen ---> -- Thursday, 7 September 2000, at 5:48 p.m.
Re: emergency roll
Greg Stamer -- Thursday, 7 September 2000, at 5:55 p.m.
Re: emergency roll
M. Hamilton -- Thursday, 7 September 2000, at 7:23 p.m.
Re: emergency roll
MT -- Thursday, 7 September 2000, at 10:46 p.m.
How Do You Teach Someone to Roll, Greg?
David -- Thursday, 7 September 2000, at 11:44 p.m.
Re: How Do You Teach Someone to Roll, Greg?
Greg Stamer -- Friday, 8 September 2000, at 12:14 p.m.
Re: Wheres your counterpart in Portland?
Don Beale -- Friday, 8 September 2000, at 2:27 p.m.
Re: Wheres your counterpart in Portland?
Greg Stamer -- Friday, 8 September 2000, at 3:25 p.m.
Thank you for your thorough answer!
David -- Saturday, 9 September 2000, at 12:24 a.m.
Re: How Do You Teach Someone to Roll, Greg?
David -- Saturday, 9 September 2000, at 12:39 a.m.
Re: How Do You Teach Someone to Roll, Greg?
Greg Stamer -- Sunday, 10 September 2000, at 11:37 a.m.
Thanks again, Greg!
David -- Sunday, 10 September 2000, at 8:25 p.m.
Conceptual orientation
Matthew Bastian -- Monday, 11 September 2000, at 9:23 a.m.
Re: Conceptual orientation
Don Beale -- Monday, 11 September 2000, at 12:13 p.m.
Re: Conceptual orientation
Greg Stamer -- Monday, 11 September 2000, at 6:07 p.m.
Re: Conceptual orientation
Mick -- Thursday, 1 April 2004, at 8:44 p.m.
Re: Conceptual orientation
Jed -- Thursday, 1 April 2004, at 11:26 p.m.
Re: emergency roll
John Leonard -- Friday, 8 September 2000, at 8:03 a.m.
combat roll practice in flat water
Nick Schade -- Friday, 8 September 2000, at 9:05 a.m.
Re: emergency roll
Mick -- Thursday, 1 April 2004, at 8:35 p.m.

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