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Re: Rockin -then rollin; Groovin -then movin
Posted By: mike allen ---> In Response To: Re: Rockin -then rollin; Groovin -then movin (risto lappalainen)
Date: Monday, 11 September 2000, at 12:39 p.m.
: I guess from the responses (put together) it is safe to conclude: 1) rolling
: up on the windward side is definitely what one would want to do.The rising wave face is arguably more helpful (under usual conditions) than the wind. But I do NOT try to figure out where every thing is coming from when upside down. too hard or time consuming for me. Maybe I should practice looking.
: 2) it pays to wait a sec or even longer to get the up-down rhytm of the waves
: (and from this one also gets the orientation - windward - if one lost
: track when flipped over).I don't know for typical pple, but when I get knocked over quick or have blown the first attempt, I wait especially for the rock to bring me back on the side I've decided to set up on. Then if I'm falling in the groove. Figuring out the windward or wave direction is too much for me.
: 3) having set up one should wait and time the roll to begin after a crest ie.
: when one has begun to fall: then one might with luck be coming up in the
: through, with one's paddle bracing in the rising face of the next set.I think it's less subtle than that. As soon as you have downward motion, the energy is in your favour. Especially as it takes a partial sec to get the action going.
: 4) if the off-side roll is much weaker, then one should work some more on it
: in order to have the choice should it come to that.It is astronically more important to have a great roll, that an okay roll on any side. But many of the basics apply to rolls also so they will help your offside roll too, and sometimes you absolutely have to switch. And its way more fun and interesting to have both sides. And it helps walking, too - don't have only those right fingers dragging on the ground.
: Of course 2) and 3) are problematic as it is against all human instincts to
: pause a while in the "washing machine", when flipped upside
: down. Even if one doesn't do a panic exit, one probably would do a
: reflexive roll on the better side.Well, if when you miss few of the supposedly bombproof rolls, you'll learn to wait for advantageous conditions. But wait tucked, you'll swing faster, it's way safer and you're more set up to begin. (I find it psychologically helpful to acknowledge that it's even in my limited potential to wait 5 sec longer - and advantageous conditions typically will occur before than.
: But I wonder, do moderate winds and swells really only have a "minimal
: effect" as Jed suggests?I think that moderate winds or swells have virtually no effect on a roll. Maybe maybe maybe starting with the downward motion of the swell - I'll have to check it out - but I doubt it'd make much appreciable difference.
-mick
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