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Conceptual orientation

Posted By: Matthew Bastian
Date: Monday, 11 September 2000, at 9:23 a.m.

In Response To: Re: How Do You Teach Someone to Roll, Greg? (Greg Stamer)

Hi Greg,

: many analytical types have a hard time with this and will insist on ...
: understand(ing) the spatial concepts of the roll

Being a strong analytical type I certainly had a hard time visiualizing all the body contortions, even though I've had extensive experience with 3d spatial conceptualization. What helped me was to not visualize myself sitting in the boat but to put my conceptual visual frame of reference below the boat. As if I were sitting on the bottom of the lake/pool looking up at the kayak.

An other thing that disorients is when you make the kayak do a complete 360 degrees rotation (ie. you roll over on one side and come up on the other). Like you describe it's easier to slowly lower ones self down on the same side that you roll up on.

Matthew

Matthew

Messages In This Thread

emergency roll
MT -- Thursday, 7 September 2000, at 4:48 p.m.

Re: emergency roll
Roger -- Thursday, 7 September 2000, at 5:17 p.m.

emergency roll order of attempts
mike allen ---> -- Thursday, 7 September 2000, at 5:48 p.m.

Re: emergency roll
Greg Stamer -- Thursday, 7 September 2000, at 5:55 p.m.

Re: emergency roll
M. Hamilton -- Thursday, 7 September 2000, at 7:23 p.m.

Re: emergency roll
MT -- Thursday, 7 September 2000, at 10:46 p.m.

How Do You Teach Someone to Roll, Greg?
David -- Thursday, 7 September 2000, at 11:44 p.m.

Re: How Do You Teach Someone to Roll, Greg?
Greg Stamer -- Friday, 8 September 2000, at 12:14 p.m.

Re: Wheres your counterpart in Portland?
Don Beale -- Friday, 8 September 2000, at 2:27 p.m.

Re: Wheres your counterpart in Portland?
Greg Stamer -- Friday, 8 September 2000, at 3:25 p.m.

Thank you for your thorough answer!
David -- Saturday, 9 September 2000, at 12:24 a.m.

Re: How Do You Teach Someone to Roll, Greg?
David -- Saturday, 9 September 2000, at 12:39 a.m.

Re: How Do You Teach Someone to Roll, Greg?
Greg Stamer -- Sunday, 10 September 2000, at 11:37 a.m.

Thanks again, Greg!
David -- Sunday, 10 September 2000, at 8:25 p.m.

Conceptual orientation
Matthew Bastian -- Monday, 11 September 2000, at 9:23 a.m.

Re: Conceptual orientation
Don Beale -- Monday, 11 September 2000, at 12:13 p.m.

Re: Conceptual orientation
Greg Stamer -- Monday, 11 September 2000, at 6:07 p.m.

Re: Conceptual orientation
Mick -- Thursday, 1 April 2004, at 8:44 p.m.

Re: Conceptual orientation
Jed -- Thursday, 1 April 2004, at 11:26 p.m.

Re: emergency roll
John Leonard -- Friday, 8 September 2000, at 8:03 a.m.

combat roll practice in flat water
Nick Schade -- Friday, 8 September 2000, at 9:05 a.m.

Re: emergency roll
Mick -- Thursday, 1 April 2004, at 8:35 p.m.

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