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Re: greenland paddle

Posted By: Greg Stamer
Date: Thursday, 29 June 2006, at 11:45 a.m.

In Response To: Re: greenland paddle (Dave Isbell)

Dave,

Good post, I have a different perspective on a few points and used your post to provide some comments. I hope you don't mind, and that these comments are helpful...

: SNIP The paddle is canted by rolling your wrists down so the top edge of the
: paddle is forward of the lower edge.( This flatter wrist-hand angle is
: very natural position).

The top edge of the paddle IS inclined toward the bow of the kayak but I like to keep my wrists as "flat and quiet" as possible to avoid injury. I view the forward tilt as happening simply from holding the paddle *blade* in your hands. Since the back of your hand (and palm) is tilted forward slightly when you do a forward stroke, the paddle blade simply adopts the forward tilt of your hands in a very ergonomic manner. You can certainly "tweak" this angle but I find it happens very naturally if your paddle fits you such that your thumb and forefinger drapes around the base of the blade naturally.

: SNIP You have to counter the tendency
: for the blade to dive and on a narrow boat will feel as though it is
: pulling you over(because it is!) You end up compensating for that. I find
: myself leaning a very small amount away from the side the stroke is on to
: do that and it is so automatic I don't know I am doing it.

FWIW, I find myself driving forward, rather than leaning from side to side. But I agree that it takes a while to learn how to "control" the diving paddle sensation. Most people seem to feel a great deal of additional "bite" when they master this. It is a unique sensation (that may come and go for awhile until you nail it). The thrill that I felt when I finally "got this" was as big as the thrill when I got my first roll.

: The natural
: buoyancy of a Greenland paddle also compensates for the diving action.

Or, to view it another way, the diving action is a technique refinement to efficiently deal with a very bouyant blade, as it allows you to bury that bouyant blade very quickly and fully. When I try a pure wing stroke with a very bouyant carbon GP, the main problem I have is just pushing the blade underwater. Without the canted angle I find that I just can't get all of the blade into the water (and you want ALL of that blade in the water -- not just the tips).

Greg Stamer

Messages In This Thread

greenland paddle
LeeG -- Wednesday, 28 June 2006, at 10:17 a.m.
Re: greenland paddle *NM*
Dave Isbell -- Wednesday, 28 June 2006, at 1:14 p.m.
Re: greenland paddle
Dave Isbell -- Wednesday, 28 June 2006, at 1:36 p.m.
Re: greenland paddle
Greg Stamer -- Thursday, 29 June 2006, at 11:45 a.m.
Re: greenland paddle
Dave Isbell -- Thursday, 29 June 2006, at 12:46 p.m.
Re: greenland paddle
Don -- Wednesday, 28 June 2006, at 2:41 p.m.
Welcome to the dark side, Lee
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 29 June 2006, at 7:36 a.m.
Re: Welcome to the dark side, Lee
LeeG -- Friday, 30 June 2006, at 8:45 a.m.
Re: Welcome to the dark side, Lee
Mike Savage -- Friday, 30 June 2006, at 2:59 p.m.
Re: greenland paddle
Greg Stamer -- Thursday, 29 June 2006, at 9:50 a.m.
Re: Greenland paddle
Kris Buttermore -- Thursday, 29 June 2006, at 11:37 a.m.
cant is the most natural blade orientation
mike allen -- Friday, 30 June 2006, at 7:53 p.m.
Re: cant is the most natural blade orientation
mike allen -- Monday, 3 July 2006, at 10:32 p.m.

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