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Re: Why I gave up paddling....

Posted By: Andy Waddington
Date: Monday, 19 September 2005, at 10:27 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Why I gave up paddling.... (Davis)

: His heart rate is 50 BPM....

Sounds good. My heart was down to 42 bpm at rest when I was at my
very fittest on a long walk in the Sierra Nevada in 1981. Anything
below 55 must be good.

: just the mindset of acting like you are 25 when you
: are an old man.....

Will you get it through your head that 50 is not old, and going
on mulitday paddling trips is NOT acting like 25. At 25 a lot of
folk don't have the sense and experience to do multiday kayak trips.
40-55 is recognised as the best age for fell runners (people who
run up and down very steep hills competitively). I have a friend
who was caving very actively in the nineteen fifties, and burnt off
a number of fit student types in Easegill Caverns when he was 68
(this was more than a decade ago). That year he was muttering about
giving up fell running because of his pressing social life, but next
thing I knew, he was off on a six month fell walking tour of Canada,
most of which, by all accounts, he ran.

Now Bert may not be typical, and most of us wouldn't want to be quite
that active into their seventies, but I'm sure your mate is just the
other end of the curve - the tail of the distribution of people who for
one reason or another don't make it into active retirement. That doesn't
mean that you should infer that everyone ought to give up their sport
after they are just out of nappies. Everyone knows enough people that
a few of them will be more than three standard deviations away from the
mean - on both sides. Take a bigger sample, if it is big enough to be
statistically significant you will see that 50 is young to be in that
state unless you have serious genetic pre-disposition or have abused
your body in some way deserving of an early death...

If you live in a society that has a life expectancy at birth of 80 years,
it is everyone else dying young that maintains your hope of living much
beyond that average age. But if you believe you are at the end of your
life, then you probably are, and will contribute to the rest of us with
more guts maintaining our longevity.

Get out paddling, and if your friend is unfortunate enough not to live
much longer, make sure you have a bloody good wake before going out for
a bloody good paddle !!

Andy

Messages In This Thread

Why I gave up paddling....
Davis -- Sunday, 4 September 2005, at 5:40 a.m.
Re: Why I gave up paddling....
Mike Savage -- Sunday, 4 September 2005, at 12:19 p.m.
Re: Why I gave up paddling....
Scott Collier -- Monday, 12 September 2005, at 4:33 p.m.
Re: Why I gave up paddling....
Mike Scarborough -- Sunday, 4 September 2005, at 12:42 p.m.
So why post this defeatist rant here?
Brian Nystrom -- Sunday, 4 September 2005, at 3:06 p.m.
Re: Why I gave up paddling....
Glen Smith -- Sunday, 4 September 2005, at 4:38 p.m.
Re: Why I gave up paddling....
Bob Kelim -- Sunday, 4 September 2005, at 9:36 p.m.
Got Any Good Gear You Want to Give Away? *NM*
Paul Jacob -- Monday, 5 September 2005, at 12:16 a.m.
Re: Why I gave up paddling....
Robert N Pruden -- Monday, 5 September 2005, at 12:26 a.m.
you didn't give up paddling ...
liv2padl -- Monday, 5 September 2005, at 8:18 a.m.
Re: Why I gave up paddling....
Wayne Smith -- Monday, 5 September 2005, at 8:21 a.m.
Re: Why I gave up paddling....
Ken Blanton -- Monday, 5 September 2005, at 4:38 p.m.
Amen, Wayne!
Robert N Pruden -- Tuesday, 6 September 2005, at 1:17 a.m.
Re: Why I gave up paddling....
Mick -- Monday, 5 September 2005, at 9:26 a.m.
Re: Why I gave up paddling....
Kurt Maurer -- Monday, 5 September 2005, at 9:34 a.m.
Re: Why I gave up paddling....
Kathy -- Monday, 5 September 2005, at 11:33 a.m.
Re: Why I gave up paddling.... *LINK*
JeffHouser -- Monday, 5 September 2005, at 12:28 p.m.
Re: Why I gave up paddling....
Max Benjamin -- Monday, 5 September 2005, at 12:32 p.m.
Re: Why I gave up paddling....
george jung -- Monday, 5 September 2005, at 7:56 p.m.
Re: Why I gave up paddling....
Bill Burton -- Monday, 5 September 2005, at 9:02 p.m.
Pure joy?
Robert N Pruden -- Tuesday, 6 September 2005, at 1:24 a.m.
Use It Or Lose It...
sing -- Tuesday, 6 September 2005, at 6:49 a.m.
Re: Why I gave up paddling....
Pete Smith -- Tuesday, 6 September 2005, at 10:04 a.m.
Re: Why I gave up paddling....
Jim Kyle -- Tuesday, 6 September 2005, at 10:37 a.m.
Do you ever consider day boating?
Rob Gibbert -- Tuesday, 6 September 2005, at 6:49 p.m.
Re: Do you ever consider day boating?
paul -- Thursday, 8 September 2005, at 12:12 p.m.
Re: Do you ever consider day boating?
shawn baker -- Thursday, 8 September 2005, at 2:46 p.m.
Re: Do you ever consider day boating?
Thomas Duncan -- Saturday, 10 September 2005, at 8:16 a.m.
Aw, David...
Robert N Pruden -- Saturday, 10 September 2005, at 11:13 p.m.
Re: Aw, David...
Kathy -- Sunday, 11 September 2005, at 11:47 a.m.
You're getting a little crazy, Kathy...
Someone -- Sunday, 11 September 2005, at 8:58 p.m.
Re: Aw, David...
shawn baker -- Monday, 12 September 2005, at 12:20 p.m.
Re: Aw, David...
Pamela -- Monday, 12 September 2005, at 2:05 p.m.
Re: Aw, David...
Robert N Pruden -- Wednesday, 14 September 2005, at 8:09 p.m.
Re: Aw, David...
Pamela -- Thursday, 15 September 2005, at 10:12 a.m.
Re: Aw, David...
Kathy -- Wednesday, 14 September 2005, at 4:31 p.m.
Oh yeah! *NM*
Robert N Pruden -- Wednesday, 14 September 2005, at 8:10 p.m.
OBITUARY - P.F. Davis:
mike allen -- Tuesday, 6 September 2005, at 7:57 p.m.
I may give up paddling too .... *LINK* *Pic*
Marek -- Wednesday, 7 September 2005, at 9:10 a.m.
Sorry to hear that, Davis ...
Pamela -- Wednesday, 7 September 2005, at 12:22 p.m.
Re: Why I gave up paddling....
paul -- Wednesday, 7 September 2005, at 5:35 p.m.
Re: Why I'd rather die paddling...
shawn baker -- Thursday, 8 September 2005, at 11:07 a.m.
Re: Why I'd rather die paddling...
Pamela -- Thursday, 8 September 2005, at 11:41 a.m.
Re: Why I'd rather die paddling...
Reg Lake -- Thursday, 8 September 2005, at 1:12 p.m.
Re: Why I'd rather die paddling...
shawn baker -- Thursday, 8 September 2005, at 2:46 p.m.
Re: Why I gave up paddling....MUST BE KIDDING!
jim kozel -- Thursday, 8 September 2005, at 2:24 p.m.
Re: Why I gave up paddling....MUST BE KIDDING!
Reg Lake -- Thursday, 8 September 2005, at 3:45 p.m.
Re: Why I gave up paddling....MUST BE KIDDING!
Miko -- Friday, 9 September 2005, at 5:21 a.m.
Re: Why I gave up paddling....MUST BE KIDDING!
shawn baker -- Friday, 9 September 2005, at 11:46 a.m.
Re: Why I gave up paddling....
martin lister -- Thursday, 15 September 2005, at 10:27 p.m.
Re: Why I gave up paddling....
Andy Waddington -- Sunday, 18 September 2005, at 5:28 p.m.
Re: Why I gave up paddling....
Davis -- Monday, 19 September 2005, at 4:26 a.m.
Re: Why I gave up paddling....
sing -- Monday, 19 September 2005, at 5:18 a.m.
Re: Why I gave up paddling....
Andy Waddington -- Monday, 19 September 2005, at 10:27 a.m.
I thought this thread had died.
Brian Nystrom -- Monday, 19 September 2005, at 11:55 a.m.
Its only 15 days old. Not geriatric yet ! *NM*
Andy Waddington -- Monday, 19 September 2005, at 5:40 p.m.
Re: Why I gave up paddling....
Brianne Corbett -- Monday, 19 September 2005, at 3:57 p.m.
Death
M. Hamilton -- Monday, 19 September 2005, at 6:09 p.m.
Re: Why I gave up paddling....
reid -- Tuesday, 20 September 2005, at 4:18 p.m.
My vote
Pamela -- Tuesday, 20 September 2005, at 8:03 p.m.
Re: My vote
Reg Lake -- Tuesday, 20 September 2005, at 8:52 p.m.
Re: My vote *NM*
Bob Kelim -- Tuesday, 20 September 2005, at 9:50 p.m.
one more try
Bob Kelim -- Tuesday, 20 September 2005, at 9:55 p.m.
Good Quote
Randy Knauff -- Wednesday, 21 September 2005, at 3:11 p.m.
Why I'm going to have to give up kayaking
Ed Deery -- Tuesday, 20 September 2005, at 11:58 p.m.
There's help available *LINK*
Pamela -- Wednesday, 21 September 2005, at 11:37 a.m.
Re: Why I gave up paddling....
shawn baker -- Wednesday, 21 September 2005, at 7:11 p.m.
Re: Why I gave up paddling....
Rob Gibbert -- Wednesday, 21 September 2005, at 7:44 p.m.
Re: Why I gave up paddling....
shawn baker -- Thursday, 22 September 2005, at 12:23 p.m.
Re: Why I didn't give up paddling....
KenB -- Thursday, 22 September 2005, at 8:16 p.m.
Re: Why I didn't give up paddling....
george jung -- Thursday, 22 September 2005, at 11:07 p.m.
You go guy!
Pamela -- Friday, 23 September 2005, at 6:59 a.m.

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