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Re: guns not for bears

Posted By: shawn baker
Date: Tuesday, 14 December 2004, at 3:41 p.m.

In Response To: Re: One final note on ditch kits (Bob Kelim)

Pepper spray, pepper spray, pepper spray.

I'm a gun-toting red-blooded American male, and my bear protection tools are in this order:

Common Sense
Noise
A fast horse
Pepper spray
...
...
...
A gun of any stripe

A bear can move awfully fast and do a lot of damage before your shaking hands can take aim and do any damage enough to stop the bruin.

Read 'Mark of the Grizzly'.

If someone breaks into your home, threatens your kids, and you want to beat on them and teach them a lesson, would you prefer they're packing pepper spray or a gun? :D

Shawn

: Pretty much any firearm you pack is a last chance option when it comes to
: unexpected bear encounters. My first choice would be a shotgun loaded, 00
: buck hevi shot, 500 grain slug, 00 buck hevi shot, 500 grain slug, 500
: grain slug, 500 grain slug, 500 grain slug. That said what I carry is a
: Ruger Blackhawh in .45 Colt loaded with 300 grain hard cast lead bullets
: at about 1350 fps. The Glock is a fine weapon but in my opinion just does
: not have enough squirt for any of the bears. Heck any of the pistols
: untill you get to the .475 Linebaugh or 500 Smith & Wesson are pretty
: marginal.
: I'm not sure but I do think you'll have to go through a considerably greater
: number of hoops to cary a pistol in Canada than I do here in Washington
: State.
: Wives hating firearms, that's a tough one to overcome. Jayne tends to
: appropriate mine for her own use.
: Bob

Messages In This Thread

Ditch Kit Contents Ideas For Long Kayaking Trips *LINK*
Robert N Pruden -- Sunday, 28 November 2004, at 7:29 p.m.
Re: Ditch Kit Contents Ideas THANK YOU
Magoo_ns -- Saturday, 4 December 2004, at 12:06 p.m.
Reentries
Robert N Pruden -- Saturday, 4 December 2004, at 7:29 p.m.
Re: Reentries
Brian Nystrom -- Monday, 6 December 2004, at 8:22 a.m.
Re: Reentries
Robert N Pruden -- Tuesday, 7 December 2004, at 6:35 a.m.
Re: Reentries
Alan -- Tuesday, 7 December 2004, at 10:29 a.m.
Re: Reentries
FrankP -- Tuesday, 7 December 2004, at 2:22 p.m.
Agreed!
Robert N Pruden -- Thursday, 9 December 2004, at 10:22 p.m.
Re: Agreed!
Ed Hopkins -- Saturday, 11 December 2004, at 12:56 p.m.
Re: Agreed!
Robert N Pruden -- Monday, 13 December 2004, at 1:02 p.m.
Re: Reentries
Brian Nystrom -- Wednesday, 8 December 2004, at 10:44 a.m.
Re: Reentries *LINK*
FrankP -- Thursday, 9 December 2004, at 8:31 a.m.
Re: Reentries
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 9 December 2004, at 10:37 a.m.
Re: Reentries
Robert N Pruden -- Thursday, 9 December 2004, at 10:53 p.m.
Re: Reentries
Robert N Pruden -- Thursday, 9 December 2004, at 10:34 p.m.
That sounds like your testosterone talking
Brian Nystrom -- Friday, 10 December 2004, at 10:12 a.m.
Re: That sounds like your testosterone talking
Bert -- Friday, 10 December 2004, at 1:59 p.m.
Re: Esoterica
sing -- Friday, 10 December 2004, at 6:09 p.m.
IMO, the issue isn't the weapon...
Brian Nystrom -- Saturday, 11 December 2004, at 8:07 a.m.
Sounds like your inexperience talking, Bryan
Robert N Pruden -- Friday, 10 December 2004, at 8:26 p.m.
Re: inexperience talks, experience walks
Alan -- Friday, 10 December 2004, at 10:53 p.m.
Re: inexperience talks, experience walks
Robert N Pruden -- Saturday, 11 December 2004, at 2:22 p.m.
Not quite
Brian Nystrom -- Saturday, 11 December 2004, at 8:25 a.m.
Re: Not quite
Robert N Pruden -- Saturday, 11 December 2004, at 2:30 p.m.
The panic reaction and a bear story
Pamela -- Sunday, 12 December 2004, at 4:37 p.m.
Re: The panic reaction and a bear story
sing -- Monday, 13 December 2004, at 5:48 a.m.
Re: The panic reaction and a bear story
Will -- Monday, 13 December 2004, at 10:55 a.m.
Re: The panic reaction and a bear story
sing -- Monday, 13 December 2004, at 11:16 a.m.
BINGO! That's exactly it, Sing
Robert N Pruden -- Monday, 13 December 2004, at 12:57 p.m.
Guess I've been underestimating the pig threat *NM*
Mike Scarborough -- Tuesday, 14 December 2004, at 9:55 a.m.
The Flow of Forces
Robert N Pruden -- Monday, 13 December 2004, at 12:46 p.m.
One final note on ditch kits
Robert N Pruden -- Saturday, 11 December 2004, at 3:37 p.m.
Re: One final note on ditch kits
Alan -- Saturday, 11 December 2004, at 5:08 p.m.
question for Alan
Don Flowers -- Monday, 13 December 2004, at 11:11 a.m.
Re: question for Alan
Alan -- Monday, 13 December 2004, at 11:24 a.m.
Re: question for Alan
Don Flowers -- Monday, 13 December 2004, at 2:20 p.m.
Re: question for Alan
Alan -- Monday, 13 December 2004, at 2:27 p.m.
Re: question for Alan
shawn baker -- Wednesday, 15 December 2004, at 3:38 p.m.
Re: One final note on ditch kits
Will -- Saturday, 11 December 2004, at 9:46 p.m.
Re: ditch kits and Bears
Paul Jacob -- Monday, 13 December 2004, at 12:46 p.m.
I'll use it for a sweetgrass ceremony
Robert N Pruden -- Monday, 13 December 2004, at 1:05 p.m.
Re: One final note on ditch kits *LINK*
KenC -- Monday, 13 December 2004, at 11:57 p.m.
Thanks for the link, the rad was totally rivetting
Robert N Pruden -- Tuesday, 14 December 2004, at 11:28 a.m.
Re: One final note on ditch kits *Pic*
Bob Kelim -- Tuesday, 14 December 2004, at 8:35 a.m.
Re: One final note on ditch kits
Robert N Pruden -- Tuesday, 14 December 2004, at 11:31 a.m.
Re: One final note on ditch kits
Bob Kelim -- Tuesday, 14 December 2004, at 1:08 p.m.
Re: One final note on ditch kits
Robert N Pruden -- Tuesday, 14 December 2004, at 3:24 p.m.
Re: guns not for bears
shawn baker -- Tuesday, 14 December 2004, at 3:41 p.m.
Re: guns not for bears
Don Flowers -- Tuesday, 14 December 2004, at 5:30 p.m.
Re: guns not for bears
shawn baker -- Wednesday, 15 December 2004, at 3:33 p.m.
Re: guns not for bears
don flowers -- Wednesday, 15 December 2004, at 11:41 p.m.
Re: guns not for bears
Bob Kelim -- Wednesday, 15 December 2004, at 9:10 p.m.
Re: guns not for bears
Robert N Pruden -- Tuesday, 14 December 2004, at 6:19 p.m.
Re: guns not for bears
Alan -- Tuesday, 14 December 2004, at 7:40 p.m.
Re: One final note on ditch kits
KenC -- Tuesday, 14 December 2004, at 11:47 p.m.
Agreed
Brian Nystrom -- Wednesday, 15 December 2004, at 11:54 a.m.
Duct Tape 8) *NM*
Don Flowers -- Wednesday, 15 December 2004, at 2:56 p.m.
The problem with that is...
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 16 December 2004, at 8:29 a.m.
Re: One final note on ditch kits
sing -- Tuesday, 14 December 2004, at 1:15 p.m.
Bush Whacking Blade
Robert N Pruden -- Tuesday, 14 December 2004, at 3:30 p.m.
Re: Bush Whacking Blade
sing -- Tuesday, 14 December 2004, at 3:54 p.m.
Re: One Final Bear Story
Will -- Tuesday, 14 December 2004, at 7:43 p.m.
What a thread!
Thomas Duncan -- Thursday, 16 December 2004, at 8:46 p.m.
VCP Igloo *LINK*
Nelson Labbé -- Friday, 17 December 2004, at 7:22 a.m.
Re: VCP Igloo *NM*
Thomas Duncan -- Friday, 17 December 2004, at 7:34 a.m.
Re: VCP Igloo Alternative
Evan Shaw -- Friday, 17 December 2004, at 9:35 a.m.
Another VCP Igloo Alternative... *LINK* *Pic*
Brian Nystrom -- Friday, 17 December 2004, at 5:49 p.m.
Re: Another VCP Igloo Alternative. yes it works!
Evan Shaw -- Friday, 17 December 2004, at 7:43 p.m.
Looks like a beached walarus but...
Robert N Pruden -- Saturday, 18 December 2004, at 1:30 p.m.
It looks better in red. ;) *NM*
Brian Nystrom -- Sunday, 19 December 2004, at 8:39 a.m.
One way I used my knife was to clear an area
Robert N Pruden -- Friday, 17 December 2004, at 11:53 a.m.
Re: One way I used my knife was to clear an area
Pete -- Friday, 17 December 2004, at 1:51 p.m.
Re: What a thread!
Will -- Monday, 20 December 2004, at 12:48 p.m.
Big Knives revisited: Entymological Discovery... *LINK*
Robert N Pruden -- Thursday, 6 January 2005, at 9:51 p.m.

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