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Re: lying in kayak

Posted By: Randy Knauff
Date: Monday, 13 December 2004, at 5:18 p.m.

In Response To: Re: lying in kayak (Robert Enns)

: Great ideas Randy. So if you do not want or need to go anywhere, a sea anchor
: with an inflated paddle float on each end of the paddle would be a great
: set- up?
: Robert

Facing into the wind or waves is pretty stable even without the outriggers. Sea anchors are great. You can even back into the beach through some pretty big waves/surf if your side bracing skills are not up to the task.

Re: Your original post is correct in that as you lie down and give up hip contact and control, the kayak will feel wigglier. We are continually making many small corrections in balance with our upper bodies that dampen out that wiggliness. Just like we make balance corrections on a bicycle as we ride without thinking about them.

Be a bit wary of "simple" explanations about stability. Easy to wiggle kayaks are not necessarily more stable and kayaks with strong initial stability are not necessarily lacking in strong stability as they are leaned over more. It is more complicated than that. Every/any commercially available kayak that has been paddled across an ocean has been a big beamy double, even if paddled solo.

"Kayak Craft" by Ted Moores has some excellent and accurate information on hull design and stability. Nick's book "The Strip Built Kayak" also has good information. Articles by John Winters and Leo Lazauskas are usually very good.
These all explain based on research, testing, mathematics, hydrodynamics, not on anecdotal stories or ideas.
It is a great sport. Fun to learn all we can.

Randy

Messages In This Thread

lying in kayak
Robert Enns -- Tuesday, 7 December 2004, at 1:20 p.m.
Re: lying in kayak LCG
Evan Shaw -- Tuesday, 7 December 2004, at 1:53 p.m.
Re: lying in kayak
Don -- Tuesday, 7 December 2004, at 5:02 p.m.
Re: Slouching
Mike Scarborough -- Wednesday, 8 December 2004, at 10:27 a.m.
Re: Lowering, not Slouching
Evan Shaw -- Wednesday, 8 December 2004, at 10:34 a.m.
For what purpose?
Jed -- Wednesday, 8 December 2004, at 12:45 p.m.
Re: For what purpose?
Robert Enns -- Thursday, 9 December 2004, at 11:20 a.m.
Re: For what purpose?
Jed -- Thursday, 9 December 2004, at 11:42 a.m.
Re: For what purpose?
Robert Enns -- Thursday, 9 December 2004, at 5:26 p.m.
Re: For what purpose?
Brian Nystrom -- Friday, 10 December 2004, at 10:19 a.m.
Re: For what purpose?
Brian Nystrom -- Friday, 10 December 2004, at 10:14 a.m.
Re: lying in kayak
Thomas Duncan -- Wednesday, 8 December 2004, at 8:31 p.m.
Re: lying in kayak
Randy Knauff -- Friday, 10 December 2004, at 3:51 a.m.
Re: lying in kayak
Robert Enns -- Saturday, 11 December 2004, at 1:50 p.m.
Re: lying in kayak
Randy Knauff -- Monday, 13 December 2004, at 5:18 p.m.
Re: lying in kayak
Ken Ferschweiler -- Friday, 10 December 2004, at 6:39 p.m.
! Well shut ma Mouth! *NM*
Robert Enns -- Saturday, 11 December 2004, at 1:56 p.m.
Re: ! Well shut ma Mouth!
Ken Ferschweiler -- Saturday, 11 December 2004, at 6:45 p.m.
Re: ! Well shut ma Mouth!
Robert Enns -- Saturday, 11 December 2004, at 9:37 p.m.
Re: lying in kayak
Jay Doorly -- Saturday, 11 December 2004, at 12:22 a.m.

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