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Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question

Posted By: jimkozel
Date: Monday, 22 September 2003, at 7:07 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question (Wayne Poulsen)

: Hi Jim
: Wondering how the comparison went, also compared to the Q400 & Q500 ?
: Come to a decision?
: Wayne

Hi Wayne -
Well, the Mariner II felt completely different, almost as if I was glued to the water. Very comfortable and responsive. The same conditions that felt overwhelming in the Q700 quickly became fun in the Mariner II. Within a few minutes I was looking forward to the next wave, etc. Following seas were lots of fun. The Mariner II was a WOW experience. It felt secure and predictable, even as narrow as it is. The Mariner II is in my garage.

Everyone that has paddled my Q700 loves it. The bigger the paddler, the more tender it feels, the smaller the paddler, the more they like the boat. That means that a female friend who is 5'7" and 130lbs and is displacing 90lbs less than me (I figure that means the 700 is riding almost an inch higher with her in the boat) finds it more stable than me at 220lbs and 6'1". Just goes to show that you can't measure stability, etc. on overall beam and water-line beam. My Q400 is a very stable platform, ideal for fishing, photography, site-seeing. I've had it out in whitecaps with green water coming up to the cockpit in head seas and it handles it fine. Because it's got a relatively flat bottom and generous beam at 24", it can wallow around a bit in bigger water. The Q500 is a longer and narrower version of the Q400. I paddled it all day in waves I couldn't handle in the Q700. It feels very stable and secure, too and paddles efficiently. Both the Q400 and Q500 have a fair amount of freeboard...I haven't tried a wet exit/reentry in either boat. A paddling friend who owns the Q500 I've tried out has no problem rolling it.

So, the Mariner II is definitely a keeper. The Q700 is for sale, but I'm going to continue to polish my skills in that boat. It's definitely me, not the boat.

Jim

Messages In This Thread

Q700 - Handling/skill level question *Pic*
Jim Kozel -- Thursday, 4 September 2003, at 3:41 p.m.

Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
Hans Friedel -- Thursday, 4 September 2003, at 4:15 p.m.

Re: Q700 - Handling/skill -BALANCE BALL
davemcadoo -- Friday, 26 September 2003, at 2:39 p.m.

Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
Paul Jacob -- Friday, 5 September 2003, at 12:14 a.m.

Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
Jim Kozel -- Friday, 5 September 2003, at 2:09 p.m.

Re: Is it worth it?
Paul -- Saturday, 6 September 2003, at 8:07 p.m.

Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
Petewp -- Thursday, 25 September 2003, at 4:59 p.m.

Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
Petewp -- Wednesday, 24 September 2003, at 9:46 p.m.

Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
Karl H -- Friday, 5 September 2003, at 7:03 a.m.

As soon as I heard 21" beam..........uh oh
David -- Saturday, 6 September 2003, at 1:29 a.m.

Re: As soon as I heard 21" beam..........uh oh
Shawn Baker -- Sunday, 7 September 2003, at 8:43 p.m.

I'm not so sure of that
Kurt Hoffman -- Monday, 8 September 2003, at 10:30 a.m.

Re: I'm not so sure of that
Petewp -- Wednesday, 24 September 2003, at 9:53 p.m.

Re: I'm not so sure of that
Kurt Hoffman -- Thursday, 25 September 2003, at 11:33 a.m.

Re: I'm not so sure of that
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 25 September 2003, at 1:31 p.m.

Re: Primary Staility & Skinny Kayaks *Pic*
Mike Hanks -- Monday, 8 September 2003, at 5:20 p.m.

Re: Primary Staility & Skinny Kayaks
Eric -- Thursday, 11 September 2003, at 3:53 p.m.

Re: Primary Staility & Skinny Kayaks
Mike Hanks -- Thursday, 11 September 2003, at 4:45 p.m.

Re: As soon as I heard 21" beam..........uh oh
Petewp -- Wednesday, 24 September 2003, at 9:51 p.m.

Re: As soon as I heard 21" beam..........uh oh
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 25 September 2003, at 1:22 p.m.

Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
Wayne oulsen -- Saturday, 6 September 2003, at 5:47 a.m.

Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
jimkozel -- Saturday, 6 September 2003, at 9:50 a.m.

Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
John D. -- Saturday, 6 September 2003, at 12:09 p.m.

Re: Cunningham S&G
Don -- Sunday, 7 September 2003, at 11:14 p.m.

Re: Cunningham S&G
John D. -- Monday, 8 September 2003, at 1:40 a.m.

Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
sing -- Saturday, 6 September 2003, at 8:52 p.m.

Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
Jim Kozel -- Saturday, 6 September 2003, at 9:44 p.m.

Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
Wayne Poulsen -- Monday, 22 September 2003, at 2:11 a.m.

Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
jimkozel -- Monday, 22 September 2003, at 7:07 p.m.

Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
Petewp -- Wednesday, 24 September 2003, at 10:03 p.m.

Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
Kris Buttermore -- Tuesday, 23 September 2003, at 6:35 p.m.

Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
jimkozel -- Tuesday, 23 September 2003, at 10:33 p.m.

Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
Kris Buttermore -- Wednesday, 24 September 2003, at 11:33 p.m.

Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
Jim Kozel -- Thursday, 25 September 2003, at 9:58 a.m.

Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
Kris Buttermore -- Thursday, 25 September 2003, at 4:22 p.m.

Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
Kris Buttermore -- Thursday, 25 September 2003, at 8:42 p.m.

Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
Paul Jacob -- Friday, 26 September 2003, at 12:06 p.m.

Re: Q700s 'n Surf Skis
Kris Buttermore -- Friday, 26 September 2003, at 5:13 p.m.

Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
Steve -- Thursday, 25 September 2003, at 11:54 p.m.

Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
jimkozel -- Friday, 26 September 2003, at 12:32 a.m.

Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
Wayne Poulsen -- Sunday, 28 September 2003, at 9:45 p.m.

Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
jimkozel -- Sunday, 28 September 2003, at 11:47 p.m.

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