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Q700 - Handling/skill level question *Pic*

Posted By: Jim Kozel
Date: Thursday, 4 September 2003, at 3:41 p.m.

Hi all -
Is it possible to be the wrong physical size for a boat when it comes to stability? I'm 6'1", long-waisted with fairly broad shoulders. I wear a 46L to 48L sportcoat and shirtsleeve length is 36.5". I weigh 215lbs.

I'm having a hard time getting comfortable in the QCC Q700 I purchased last December. At times, I still feel like I'm balancing on a log. I removed the stock seat and installed a minicell seat with minicell hip braces,and there's excellent knee-bracing, too. I'm sitting barely 1/4" off the bottom of the boat.

~ The Q700 is a John Winter's design, 18' long, 17'+ waterline, 21" beam, 20.5" waterline beam. It's very fast and has awesome secondary stability. When I've made an error and started to tip, the secondary kicked in like a supporting pair of hands. I have not flipped this boat, BTW. I've had other experienced paddlers try the Q700 and they all said, "Yep, it's a bit tender, but feels great...performance boats like this usually feel tender."
~ BUT, I find its initial stability downright twitchy and feel very unstable in it. The Q700 is advertised as an intermediate to advanced boat.
~My frame of reference is my Cape Ann Storm, which is a very different but still narrow design. It's got a 22" beam and a 20.5" waterline beam. In the same choppy conditions that freak me out in the Q700, the Storm feels completely comfortable and stable. The Storm just rides over beam waves, the Q700 feels like it wants to roll. Hmmm.

So, to my question: Is this a boat that I can use to take my skills to the next level, or am I simply a poor match for this boat? It certainly fits as far as size and displacement. I'm finishing my 3rd season of paddling and have taken to paddling Lake Erie. I haven't learned to roll yet, but have been pretty darn comfortable in the Cape Ann Storm. That's me in the Storm, in case a visual reference might help here.

I'm having a hard time evaluating this situation.

Thanks for any suggestions/observations you might offer.

Jim

Messages In This Thread

Q700 - Handling/skill level question *Pic*
Jim Kozel -- Thursday, 4 September 2003, at 3:41 p.m.
Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
Hans Friedel -- Thursday, 4 September 2003, at 4:15 p.m.
Re: Q700 - Handling/skill -BALANCE BALL
davemcadoo -- Friday, 26 September 2003, at 2:39 p.m.
Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
Paul Jacob -- Friday, 5 September 2003, at 12:14 a.m.
Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
Jim Kozel -- Friday, 5 September 2003, at 2:09 p.m.
Re: Is it worth it?
Paul -- Saturday, 6 September 2003, at 8:07 p.m.
Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
Petewp -- Thursday, 25 September 2003, at 4:59 p.m.
Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
Petewp -- Wednesday, 24 September 2003, at 9:46 p.m.
Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
Karl H -- Friday, 5 September 2003, at 7:03 a.m.
As soon as I heard 21" beam..........uh oh
David -- Saturday, 6 September 2003, at 1:29 a.m.
Re: As soon as I heard 21" beam..........uh oh
Shawn Baker -- Sunday, 7 September 2003, at 8:43 p.m.
I'm not so sure of that
Kurt Hoffman -- Monday, 8 September 2003, at 10:30 a.m.
Re: I'm not so sure of that
Petewp -- Wednesday, 24 September 2003, at 9:53 p.m.
Re: I'm not so sure of that
Kurt Hoffman -- Thursday, 25 September 2003, at 11:33 a.m.
Re: I'm not so sure of that
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 25 September 2003, at 1:31 p.m.
Re: Primary Staility & Skinny Kayaks *Pic*
Mike Hanks -- Monday, 8 September 2003, at 5:20 p.m.
Re: Primary Staility & Skinny Kayaks
Eric -- Thursday, 11 September 2003, at 3:53 p.m.
Re: Primary Staility & Skinny Kayaks
Mike Hanks -- Thursday, 11 September 2003, at 4:45 p.m.
Re: As soon as I heard 21" beam..........uh oh
Petewp -- Wednesday, 24 September 2003, at 9:51 p.m.
Re: As soon as I heard 21" beam..........uh oh
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 25 September 2003, at 1:22 p.m.
Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
Wayne oulsen -- Saturday, 6 September 2003, at 5:47 a.m.
Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
jimkozel -- Saturday, 6 September 2003, at 9:50 a.m.
Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
John D. -- Saturday, 6 September 2003, at 12:09 p.m.
Re: Cunningham S&G
Don -- Sunday, 7 September 2003, at 11:14 p.m.
Re: Cunningham S&G
John D. -- Monday, 8 September 2003, at 1:40 a.m.
Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
sing -- Saturday, 6 September 2003, at 8:52 p.m.
Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
Jim Kozel -- Saturday, 6 September 2003, at 9:44 p.m.
Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
Wayne Poulsen -- Monday, 22 September 2003, at 2:11 a.m.
Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
jimkozel -- Monday, 22 September 2003, at 7:07 p.m.
Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
Petewp -- Wednesday, 24 September 2003, at 10:03 p.m.
Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
Kris Buttermore -- Tuesday, 23 September 2003, at 6:35 p.m.
Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
jimkozel -- Tuesday, 23 September 2003, at 10:33 p.m.
Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
Kris Buttermore -- Wednesday, 24 September 2003, at 11:33 p.m.
Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
Jim Kozel -- Thursday, 25 September 2003, at 9:58 a.m.
Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
Kris Buttermore -- Thursday, 25 September 2003, at 4:22 p.m.
Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
Kris Buttermore -- Thursday, 25 September 2003, at 8:42 p.m.
Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
Paul Jacob -- Friday, 26 September 2003, at 12:06 p.m.
Re: Q700s 'n Surf Skis
Kris Buttermore -- Friday, 26 September 2003, at 5:13 p.m.
Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
Steve -- Thursday, 25 September 2003, at 11:54 p.m.
Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
jimkozel -- Friday, 26 September 2003, at 12:32 a.m.
Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
Wayne Poulsen -- Sunday, 28 September 2003, at 9:45 p.m.
Re: Q700 - Handling/skill level question
jimkozel -- Sunday, 28 September 2003, at 11:47 p.m.

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