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Re: Canoe and Kayak Scam Kills 1,000 Americans

Posted By: Ian Johnston
Date: Saturday, 9 August 2003, at 8:40 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Canoe and Kayak Scam Kills 1,000 Americans *Pic* (Geoffww)

: Rolling is not the panacea of self
: rescue that some of you condescending snobs think it is. Some of you need
: to do some soul searching and are in a real need of an attitude upgrade.

No, most of use are realists and know exactly what happens when products like sponsons are used. The people in the Queen Charlottes died even though they had sponsons.

Rolling is the best way to prevent hypothermia available to a kayaker. PERIOD!!

Sponsons are like training wheels.......after you circle the block once with them, they are more of a hinderance than a help.

: Who gives a damn what the correct statistics are we are talking about the
: deaths of people who are out to have fun and sadly don't come home.

I give a damn! It is obvious that you feel that Tim is justified in lying to sell his product. In my view, if the product is so good then there is no need to lie.

Put the real statistics out there and educate people so they can make informed decisions. Tim is like Chicken Little running around crying "The sky is falling" when there is no evidence to support his claim. The fewer sponsons he sells the louder he yells.

: If Tim
: strongly believes that what he is doing is right then God bless him. What
: are doing?

Learning and teaching proper skills. Everyone I know who bought a pair of sponsons does not use them. They sit on a shelf because they are, in fact, a nuisance and a hazard. Quoting people who have never kayaked in their lives as saying that sponsons save lives is so much BULL**IT!

Ian

Messages In This Thread

Canoe and Kayak Scam Kills 1,000 Americans *LINK*
Robert Woodard -- Tuesday, 29 July 2003, at 10:11 p.m.
Re: must , not,,,,,respond
LeeG -- Tuesday, 29 July 2003, at 10:41 p.m.
Re: must , not,,,,,respond
Bert -- Tuesday, 29 July 2003, at 11:16 p.m.
OK
Mick -- Wednesday, 30 July 2003, at 2:58 a.m.
Re: OK
Robert Woodard -- Wednesday, 30 July 2003, at 6:01 a.m.
Re: OK
Bert -- Wednesday, 30 July 2003, at 8:20 a.m.
Huge sums of cash. Anyone seen it?
Shawn Baker -- Wednesday, 30 July 2003, at 11:16 a.m.
Re: Huge sums of cash. Anyone seen it?
charles w -- Friday, 8 August 2003, at 3:29 p.m.
Big seas OK??
Randy Knauff -- Wednesday, 30 July 2003, at 2:26 p.m.
Re: must , not,,,,,respond
Robert Woodard -- Wednesday, 30 July 2003, at 5:56 a.m.
Re: Canoe and Kayak Scam Kills 1,000 Americans
Ian Johnston -- Wednesday, 30 July 2003, at 3:32 a.m.
Re: Canoe and Kayak Scam Kills 1,000 Americans
Eric -- Wednesday, 30 July 2003, at 5:53 a.m.
Book Scam Kills 100's of Kayak Enthusiasts
Malcolm Schweizer -- Wednesday, 30 July 2003, at 7:06 p.m.
Re: Canoe and Kayak Scam Kills 1,000 Americans *Pic*
Geoffww -- Saturday, 9 August 2003, at 8:01 p.m.
Re: Canoe and Kayak Scam Kills 1,000 Americans
LeeG -- Saturday, 9 August 2003, at 8:37 p.m.
Re: Canoe and Kayak Scam Kills 1,000 Americans
Ian Johnston -- Saturday, 9 August 2003, at 8:40 p.m.
Re: manners
LeeG -- Sunday, 10 August 2003, at 7:59 a.m.
Re: Canoe and Kayak Scam Kills 1,000 Americans
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- Sunday, 10 August 2003, at 10:30 a.m.
Re: Canoe and Kayak Scam Kills 1,000 Americans
Mick -- Monday, 11 August 2003, at 2:03 a.m.
Sponsons should be defended, but their marketer?
Shawn Baker -- Tuesday, 12 August 2003, at 11:39 p.m.
LOL, Here we Go Again.......LOL
David -- Sunday, 17 August 2003, at 8:55 p.m.
So in other words... *LINK*
Brian Nystrom -- Monday, 18 August 2003, at 1:58 p.m.
Re: So in other words...
Shawn Baker -- Tuesday, 19 August 2003, at 12:03 a.m.
Re: So in other words...
Brian Nystrom -- Tuesday, 19 August 2003, at 12:14 p.m.
THx, had never heard of voyageur..... *NM*
David -- Tuesday, 19 August 2003, at 3:47 a.m.
Re: THx, had never heard of voyageur.....
Brian Nystrom -- Tuesday, 19 August 2003, at 12:19 p.m.
Re: THx, had never heard of voyageur.....
Shawn Baker -- Tuesday, 19 August 2003, at 3:47 p.m.
Oh yes, the little devils are in my red gear bag
David -- Wednesday, 20 August 2003, at 3:44 a.m.
Re: Oh yes, the little devils are in my red gear b
Shawn Baker -- Wednesday, 20 August 2003, at 10:29 a.m.
Re: Oh yes, the little devils are in my red gear b
David -- Thursday, 21 August 2003, at 12:05 p.m.
Re: Oh yes, the little devils are in my red gear b
Shawn Baker -- Thursday, 21 August 2003, at 12:35 p.m.
David, email me. *NM*
Shawn Baker -- Thursday, 21 August 2003, at 6:03 p.m.
Re: LOL, Here we Go Again.......LOL
Shawn Baker -- Tuesday, 19 August 2003, at 12:03 a.m.
Re: LOL, Here we Go Again.......LOL
David -- Tuesday, 19 August 2003, at 3:49 a.m.

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