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Re: Whats really scarey to me...

Posted By: Shawn Baker
Date: Tuesday, 27 May 2003, at 10:39 a.m.

In Response To: Whats really scarey to me... (Petewp)

: Whats really scarey to me is that Ive read that the paddle float rescue, in
: the event of a capsize naturally, begins to fail when waves reach three
: feet or more. So say your roll doesnt work either,

So you try another roll. Then another. Then you try sculling to the surface. Only then do you bail.

: and now the paddle
: float fails... whjat next

Then you try the re-enter and roll, or the re-enter and paddlefloat roll. Or you try the cowboy scramble.

You're paddling with a partner, right? A T-rescue is much easier than all the above listed options (save the roll!) and puts you in a dry boat, ready to paddle. You're not paddling in 3' waves without a partner, without multiple rolling options, or without multiple rescue options, are you?

You need to develop lots of options before you venture out into places you might encounter 3' waves.

:...fire the flare gun????

How about using your VHF to ask for an assist from a nearby fishing vessel? Climb on your partner's back deck? (You could use your fins here to help her/him).

Don't give up and ditch your boat so quickly. Fins are an option, but you've plenty of other options, that, with practice, you can develop skills that will make any capsize an annoyance rather than an emergency.

: Times like that, and I
: know Ive caught flak over this, it makes sense to have a pair of fins on
: board to expidite the exit to shore. Ofcourse, there are those times where
: the shore is 10 miles out I guess, but man, anything to save the
: humiliation of firing off an "I F--ked Up" Flare.

Having to ditch your $1,000+ boat and swimming to shore is better than launching a $40 flare? Either way, you'll be a little embarrased, but should first and foremost feel lucky to be alive.

Shawn

Messages In This Thread

Incident Report
David -- Tuesday, 20 May 2003, at 10:48 a.m.

Re: Incident Report
Shawn Baker -- Tuesday, 20 May 2003, at 12:06 p.m.

Insightful and a welcome comment as usual, thanx S *NM*
David -- Wednesday, 21 May 2003, at 8:30 a.m.

Thanks for posting this
Brian Nystrom -- Tuesday, 20 May 2003, at 12:20 p.m.

hope the weather is better next weekend
Frank Eberdt -- Tuesday, 20 May 2003, at 12:42 p.m.

Re: hope the weather is better next weekend
David -- Wednesday, 21 May 2003, at 8:10 a.m.

WB David!
Robert N Pruden -- Wednesday, 21 May 2003, at 11:00 p.m.

Re: WB David!
Mike and Rikki -- Thursday, 22 May 2003, at 12:46 a.m.

I'm ready to go.
Robert N Pruden -- Friday, 23 May 2003, at 6:01 p.m.

Re: I'm ready to go.
Mike and Rikki -- Saturday, 24 May 2003, at 1:20 a.m.

Re: I'm ready to go.
Robert N Pruden -- Saturday, 24 May 2003, at 8:33 a.m.

Re: I'm ready to go.
Mike and Rikki -- Saturday, 24 May 2003, at 6:25 p.m.

Re: Incident Report
Ian Johnston -- Tuesday, 20 May 2003, at 9:14 p.m.

Thanks for your comments
David -- Wednesday, 21 May 2003, at 8:04 a.m.

Re: Thanks for your comments
LeeG -- Wednesday, 21 May 2003, at 9:27 a.m.

Answers
David -- Friday, 23 May 2003, at 10:19 a.m.

Re: Answers
LeeG -- Friday, 23 May 2003, at 6:42 p.m.

Re: Thanks for your comments
Shawn Baker -- Wednesday, 21 May 2003, at 12:31 p.m.

Re: towing practice
LeeG -- Wednesday, 21 May 2003, at 4:21 p.m.

I will try it this weekend and let ya know, thx! *NM*
David -- Friday, 23 May 2003, at 10:42 a.m.

Thank you Shawn, very helpful comments...
David -- Friday, 23 May 2003, at 10:31 a.m.

Re: Thank you Shawn, very helpful comments...
Shawn Baker -- Friday, 23 May 2003, at 11:17 a.m.

Re: Thank you Shawn, very helpful comments...
Brian Nystrom -- Friday, 23 May 2003, at 1:09 p.m.

Cheers, Very Insightful
David -- Sunday, 25 May 2003, at 7:13 a.m.

Re: Racer in the lead?
Val Wann -- Friday, 23 May 2003, at 2:58 p.m.

Precisely
David -- Sunday, 25 May 2003, at 7:20 a.m.

Re: that's a great point
Shawn Baker -- Tuesday, 27 May 2003, at 10:25 a.m.

Re: that's a great point
Pamela -- Tuesday, 27 May 2003, at 8:05 p.m.

Re: that's a great point
Shawn Baker -- Wednesday, 28 May 2003, at 11:48 a.m.

Class ratios
Pamela -- Wednesday, 28 May 2003, at 12:20 p.m.

Re: Class ratios
Shawn Baker -- Wednesday, 28 May 2003, at 12:57 p.m.

... but less $ for kayaks
haresfur -- Thursday, 29 May 2003, at 1:20 a.m.

More questions and observations.
Brian Nystrom -- Wednesday, 21 May 2003, at 12:34 p.m.

Some thoughts
Pamela -- Wednesday, 21 May 2003, at 7:46 p.m.

Re: Some thoughts
David -- Friday, 23 May 2003, at 10:40 a.m.

GLAD YOUR BACK
Mike and Rikki -- Thursday, 22 May 2003, at 12:38 a.m.

Cheers M8E!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *NM*
David -- Friday, 23 May 2003, at 10:41 a.m.

Re: Cheers M8E!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Robert N Pruden -- Tuesday, 27 May 2003, at 3:32 p.m.

Re: Incident Report
Petewp -- Friday, 23 May 2003, at 12:52 p.m.

And I too.......
David -- Sunday, 25 May 2003, at 7:15 a.m.

Re: Incident Report
Petewp -- Saturday, 24 May 2003, at 3:17 p.m.

Exactly
David -- Sunday, 25 May 2003, at 7:19 a.m.

Whats really scarey to me...
Petewp -- Sunday, 25 May 2003, at 9:54 a.m.

Re: Whats really scarey to me...
Shawn Baker -- Tuesday, 27 May 2003, at 10:39 a.m.

Re: Whats really scarey to me...
Petewp -- Tuesday, 27 May 2003, at 3:19 p.m.

Re: Whats really scarey to me...
Shawn Baker -- Tuesday, 27 May 2003, at 5:23 p.m.

Re: Exactly
Ian Johnston -- Sunday, 25 May 2003, at 9:31 p.m.

...and gills!!! *NM*
Shawn Baker -- Tuesday, 27 May 2003, at 10:27 a.m.

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