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Re: Swing weight, rocker, maneuverability

Posted By: Shawn Baker
Date: Thursday, 6 March 2003, at 7:00 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Speed vs Weight (Brian Nystrom)

: While this is certainly true, most of the maneuverability of a surf boat is
: due to it's short length. Would you rather a 40# 12' boat or a 30# 17'
: boat?

: The hull design is also key. For example, Nick's 18' Night Heron is much more
: maneuverable than most of the 15'-16' boats I've paddled. The 19', 65#+
: fiberglass Recluse that I used to own was much easier to turn than my 40#
: skin boat. It seems to me that weight is really a secondary consideration
: in the maneuverablity of a kayak.

I think Tim's example was all other things being equal...radically changing rocker or length throws the weight consideration out the window. Now you're comparing apples and bananas.

Another variable is how it may be loaded. A couple of litre water bottles can throw out all your lightweight kayak swing weight advantages.

That's why we all pack our heavy water right behind the seat, right? ;)

Shawn

Messages In This Thread

Averege speed another perspective
Petewp -- Tuesday, 4 March 2003, at 11:58 p.m.
Re: Hull drag calculations online
Shawn Baker -- Wednesday, 5 March 2003, at 10:17 a.m.
Re: Speed vs Weight
Paul J -- Wednesday, 5 March 2003, at 2:58 p.m.
Re: Speed vs Weight
Robert Woodard -- Wednesday, 5 March 2003, at 3:03 p.m.
Re: Speed vs Weight
Mike Hanks -- Wednesday, 5 March 2003, at 5:09 p.m.
Re: Speed vs Weight
Tim Mattson -- Thursday, 6 March 2003, at 2:19 a.m.
Re: Speed vs Weight
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 6 March 2003, at 1:16 p.m.
Re: Swing weight, rocker, maneuverability
Shawn Baker -- Thursday, 6 March 2003, at 7:00 p.m.
I agree, but...
Brian Nystrom -- Friday, 7 March 2003, at 12:21 p.m.
Re: I agree, but...
Tim Mattson -- Friday, 7 March 2003, at 7:31 p.m.
Re: I agree, but...
Brian Nystrom -- Monday, 10 March 2003, at 12:52 p.m.
Re: I agree, but...
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- Monday, 10 March 2003, at 1:11 p.m.
Swing, bop, top-40, and weight probs
Mike and Rikki -- Saturday, 8 March 2003, at 12:15 a.m.
Re: Tim has a new boat?!
Shawn Baker -- Monday, 10 March 2003, at 12:32 p.m.
Re: Tim has a new boat?!
Tim Mattson -- Monday, 10 March 2003, at 1:25 p.m.
didn't I tell ya? *NM*
Karl -- Tuesday, 11 March 2003, at 1:12 a.m.
Re: Romany 18
Paul J -- Wednesday, 12 March 2003, at 11:59 a.m.
Re: Romany 18
Karl -- Wednesday, 12 March 2003, at 12:17 p.m.
Re: Romany 18
Tim Mattson -- Saturday, 15 March 2003, at 10:12 a.m.
can of worms
Karl -- Saturday, 15 March 2003, at 4:16 p.m.
Re: can of worms
Shawn Baker -- Sunday, 16 March 2003, at 8:32 p.m.
Re: can of worms
Karl -- Monday, 17 March 2003, at 12:20 p.m.
Re: Speed vs Weight
Paul J -- Thursday, 6 March 2003, at 12:46 p.m.
Re: Speed vs Weight
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- Thursday, 6 March 2003, at 2:49 p.m.
Very well said Nick *NM*
M. Hamilton -- Thursday, 6 March 2003, at 4:35 p.m.
Re: Speed vs Weight
Paul J -- Thursday, 6 March 2003, at 6:47 p.m.
Re: Speed vs Weight
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- Friday, 7 March 2003, at 9:43 a.m.
Re: Speed vs Weight
Dave -- Wednesday, 5 March 2003, at 6:15 p.m.
Re: Speed vs Weight-hot day for big man
davemcadoo -- Wednesday, 5 March 2003, at 9:15 p.m.
Re: Speed vs Weight-hot day for big man
Dave -- Wednesday, 5 March 2003, at 9:58 p.m.
Re: Speed vs Weight
yakman -- Sunday, 9 March 2003, at 3:35 p.m.
Re: Averege speed another perspective
Petewp -- Thursday, 6 March 2003, at 9:10 a.m.

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