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Re: Speed vs Weight

Posted By: Paul J
Date: Wednesday, 5 March 2003, at 2:58 p.m.

In Response To: Averege speed another perspective (Petewp)

Along these same lines, I've come across some rower types who also seem to be pretty good with mathematics. They've derived some formulas for how total weight affects speed for a given power output. Their basic formula for rowing shells is (%change in speed) = 1/6 (%change in weight). The weight is the total system weight of paddler + boat, but it correlates pretty well with a chart I saw posted some time ago by some scandanavian kayakers(I think).

As an example, for a 250lb boat+paddler who loses 10 lbs, (down to 240 total weight), that's a 4% weight change. If we assume a kayak hull is basically similar in the water to a rowing hull, speed change will be 1/6 of 4% or about 2/3%. At 4mph he/she will see a speed increase of a whopping 0.027 mph. 5 hours of paddling at 4.027 mph will get you 0.13 miles further along - about 700 feet. Sheesh

Sort of makes you wonder what all the fuss is about weight. At least as it concerns paddling speed. Just thought I'd toss that out :)

Messages In This Thread

Averege speed another perspective
Petewp -- Tuesday, 4 March 2003, at 11:58 p.m.
Re: Hull drag calculations online
Shawn Baker -- Wednesday, 5 March 2003, at 10:17 a.m.
Re: Speed vs Weight
Paul J -- Wednesday, 5 March 2003, at 2:58 p.m.
Re: Speed vs Weight
Robert Woodard -- Wednesday, 5 March 2003, at 3:03 p.m.
Re: Speed vs Weight
Mike Hanks -- Wednesday, 5 March 2003, at 5:09 p.m.
Re: Speed vs Weight
Tim Mattson -- Thursday, 6 March 2003, at 2:19 a.m.
Re: Speed vs Weight
Brian Nystrom -- Thursday, 6 March 2003, at 1:16 p.m.
Re: Swing weight, rocker, maneuverability
Shawn Baker -- Thursday, 6 March 2003, at 7:00 p.m.
I agree, but...
Brian Nystrom -- Friday, 7 March 2003, at 12:21 p.m.
Re: I agree, but...
Tim Mattson -- Friday, 7 March 2003, at 7:31 p.m.
Re: I agree, but...
Brian Nystrom -- Monday, 10 March 2003, at 12:52 p.m.
Re: I agree, but...
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- Monday, 10 March 2003, at 1:11 p.m.
Swing, bop, top-40, and weight probs
Mike and Rikki -- Saturday, 8 March 2003, at 12:15 a.m.
Re: Tim has a new boat?!
Shawn Baker -- Monday, 10 March 2003, at 12:32 p.m.
Re: Tim has a new boat?!
Tim Mattson -- Monday, 10 March 2003, at 1:25 p.m.
didn't I tell ya? *NM*
Karl -- Tuesday, 11 March 2003, at 1:12 a.m.
Re: Romany 18
Paul J -- Wednesday, 12 March 2003, at 11:59 a.m.
Re: Romany 18
Karl -- Wednesday, 12 March 2003, at 12:17 p.m.
Re: Romany 18
Tim Mattson -- Saturday, 15 March 2003, at 10:12 a.m.
can of worms
Karl -- Saturday, 15 March 2003, at 4:16 p.m.
Re: can of worms
Shawn Baker -- Sunday, 16 March 2003, at 8:32 p.m.
Re: can of worms
Karl -- Monday, 17 March 2003, at 12:20 p.m.
Re: Speed vs Weight
Paul J -- Thursday, 6 March 2003, at 12:46 p.m.
Re: Speed vs Weight
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- Thursday, 6 March 2003, at 2:49 p.m.
Very well said Nick *NM*
M. Hamilton -- Thursday, 6 March 2003, at 4:35 p.m.
Re: Speed vs Weight
Paul J -- Thursday, 6 March 2003, at 6:47 p.m.
Re: Speed vs Weight
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- Friday, 7 March 2003, at 9:43 a.m.
Re: Speed vs Weight
Dave -- Wednesday, 5 March 2003, at 6:15 p.m.
Re: Speed vs Weight-hot day for big man
davemcadoo -- Wednesday, 5 March 2003, at 9:15 p.m.
Re: Speed vs Weight-hot day for big man
Dave -- Wednesday, 5 March 2003, at 9:58 p.m.
Re: Speed vs Weight
yakman -- Sunday, 9 March 2003, at 3:35 p.m.
Re: Averege speed another perspective
Petewp -- Thursday, 6 March 2003, at 9:10 a.m.

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