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Re: Average Speed

Posted By: M. Hamilton
Date: Friday, 28 February 2003, at 10:59 p.m.

In Response To: Average Speed (John)

Hi John. This is a common question which you have thought about in more depth than most I think, based on the wording of your post. Many opinions, most only partially correct. You'll hear the standard hull speed formula, which for most kayaks IS pretty accurate. Whether you use 1.34 or 1.4, or even 1.5 (race shells) the key is in the concept that beyond a certain point all displacement hulls require exponential energy to drive. As I think Brianne pointed out "hull speed" is misunderstood. It's NOT ultimate speed, rather that point at which much greater energy is required. I paddle a 16 ft. kayak, and in flat water I work hard to keep up with lesser fit paddlers in longer skinnier boats, but I still keep up. In rough seas I wait for them. There is a point where extra wetted surface doesn't realistically make sense. Many folk buy an 18 ft. boat that actually requires more energy at 3.5-4 knots than a shorter craft. But lets not underestimate the power of ego combined with little knowledge. If speed is what you are after, then go for the longest, roundest, low rockered boat you can handle. Sea state has a lot to do with your choice as well. A Jeep is faster on a pot-holed, rutted road than a Porsche! A Coaster in ten foot seas will NET faster results than a race boat. Good luck.

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Average Speed
John -- Friday, 28 February 2003, at 8:39 a.m.
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Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- Friday, 28 February 2003, at 9:40 a.m.
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Petewp -- Friday, 28 February 2003, at 3:05 p.m.
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Rob P -- Friday, 28 February 2003, at 3:16 p.m.
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Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- Friday, 28 February 2003, at 4:42 p.m.
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Bob Kelim -- Friday, 28 February 2003, at 3:23 p.m.
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Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- Friday, 28 February 2003, at 4:48 p.m.
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yakman -- Friday, 28 February 2003, at 4:10 p.m.
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John -- Friday, 28 February 2003, at 4:24 p.m.
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Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- Friday, 28 February 2003, at 4:50 p.m.
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Jack Sanderson -- Friday, 28 February 2003, at 5:59 p.m.
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Petewp -- Monday, 3 March 2003, at 11:41 a.m.
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Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- Tuesday, 4 March 2003, at 9:18 a.m.
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yakman -- Friday, 28 February 2003, at 6:10 p.m.
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Petewp -- Friday, 28 February 2003, at 6:44 p.m.
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Petewp -- Friday, 28 February 2003, at 6:54 p.m.
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Petewp -- Monday, 3 March 2003, at 12:00 p.m.
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John -- Monday, 3 March 2003, at 9:41 p.m.
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Dave -- Monday, 3 March 2003, at 10:38 p.m.
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Petewp -- Tuesday, 4 March 2003, at 2:11 a.m.
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Jeff The Tall -- Wednesday, 5 March 2003, at 8:11 p.m.
Re: Just in awe
yakman -- Tuesday, 4 March 2003, at 3:25 p.m.
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Petewp -- Tuesday, 4 March 2003, at 11:50 p.m.
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M. Hamilton -- Friday, 28 February 2003, at 10:59 p.m.
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Petewp -- Saturday, 1 March 2003, at 9:07 a.m.
No offense
M. Hamilton -- Tuesday, 4 March 2003, at 2:56 p.m.
Re: No offense
Petewp -- Tuesday, 4 March 2003, at 11:54 p.m.
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Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- Saturday, 1 March 2003, at 5:59 p.m.
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Ken Ferschweiler -- Sunday, 2 March 2003, at 5:21 p.m.
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M. Hamilton -- Tuesday, 4 March 2003, at 1:41 p.m.
hull speed for multihull boats *LINK* *Pic*
Marek Uliasz -- Saturday, 1 March 2003, at 9:22 a.m.
Re: hull speed for multihull boats
Paul J -- Monday, 3 March 2003, at 1:25 p.m.
hull speed for outrigger canoe - video *LINK* *Pic*
Marek Uliasz -- Monday, 3 March 2003, at 2:17 p.m.
Re: Average Speed-21footer
dace mcadoo -- Saturday, 1 March 2003, at 8:33 p.m.

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